Thursday, December 24, 2015

CELEBRATE WHENEVER YOU GET A CHANCE !!!




IF YOUR FAMILY CANNOT COME AROUND A TABLE LIKE THIS DURING THIS FESTIVE SEASON, SOMETHING WENT WRONG TERRIBLY SOMEWHERE!!!! 

A very happy festive season to all our readers. Please take time off to spend time with your family and friends. Don't forget that your spouse and your children will be the ones who will stick around with you longer than anybody else during your earthly journey. During this festive season, please look out for those individuals and families whose families are shattered because of LEF. There may be a lonely spouse whose wife/husband my have been hijacked by LEF and this person may be shedding bitter tears out of sheer helplessness. There may be parents who lost their children to LEF. There may be children who lost their parents to LEF. Please be kind and mindful of individuals who are hurting because of harm done to them and their families by Lily Daniel and her stooges and LEF at large. No philosophy and dogma can justify why a family cannot sit around a table and enjoy a happy meal on what is supposed to be a day to celebrate the birth of a savior. If LEF has done this to you or to any family you know, then please re-evaluate your belief system before it is too late. All amends can be made only when there is breath in your nostrils. The unsaid words and unmended relationships are the perfect recipe for a miserable death. As many comments on this blog indicate, Joshua Daniel seems to have had such a death. Let not LEF and its misguided philosophies drive you to a point of no return just like it did to Joshua Daniel. The choices you make today decide your eternal destiny. What we are today is the sum of all the choices we made. All of us are one choice away from eternal bliss or eternal misery at every juncture of our lives. It is the wise and prudent who chose with eternity in mind. Chose well!!! 
We once again wish you a very happy time with your families.

28 comments:

  1. on this Christmas day, try to think of your past life. once you're a sinner saved by Jesus. did you forget all? Read 1 cor 13 chapter and pray god that you should no harm to your neighbor. bible says "love does no ill to his neighbor". what you're posting is against your neighbor in the sight of god. and it's also against the second commandment of Jesus who said "love your neighbor as your self". if people who read this blog are turning away from god, you're none other than a stumbling block and a whitewashed tomb. more over, learn what it means to say "i desire mercy, not sacrifice". so just think of what you've done so far before going to bed everyday... may god bless you... --anil

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    1. My dear friend Anil, may you be blessed with ignorant bliss during this time of the year. People like you should not visit this blog if it shakes up your belief system. This blog is not for the feeble minded who cannot bear to see the truth for what it is. This is for the brave in heart who dare to question. Please come to talk without hiding behind some random Bible verse to cover up your lack of intellect. People who read this blog may be running away from LEF and not from God. Why is that giving you jitters, my friend? Why is your peanut mind not able to see that God is different, LEF is different, Joshua Daniel is different and Jesus different? All these different entities seem to have merged into one in your jumbled mind. You are just making a fool of yourself with your ignorant and unintelligent blabbering. Anil Sir, please go and try your foolish blabbering with people who will be sitting at LEF centers on this Christmas day. This blog is not the place for intellectually challenged people like you to speak your nonsense.
      By the way, Anil, did you by any chance suddenly feel like you were raised to some level of God to come and remind people that they are sinners and that they should not forget that because they were saved by you. Looks like you also felt like you can play God and come here and proclaim that what we are doing on this blog is not right in the sight of God. Are you the self proclaimed God? Good for you, man!!! You definitely need to be the main preacher at LEF conventions. You won your spot on LEF stage to join the goons as you dared to remind us that we are all sinners. May your tribe increase!!! LEF needs people like you. You are worth your weight in Gold for LEF at this troubled times when people are running away from LEF, (oops no ...) from God himself as you claimed in your comment because of whistle blowers like us.

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    2. Anil:

      I think you must be reading a different Bible from the one I have been reading for so many years. In my Bible, truth is what is pre-eminent. Jesus described himself as 'the truth'. Jesus's love can only be expressed by means of truth. Love without truth is hypocrisy or mere sentiment.

      Therefore those who do not speak or preach biblical truth, and who do not show biblical care towards those of whom they claim to be pastors or shepherds, do immense harm to the flock. The Daniels are such people, and by association LEF itself. Do you remember when Jesus warned his followers that 'a little leaven leavens the whole lump'?

      The Daniels and their accomplices are not 'our neighbours' in the sense that you are trying to pretend. They are dangerous hirelings, and Jesus himself spoke very harshly in warning against such people.

      Should we obey Jesus's and the apostles' instructions about how to deal with hirelings, or should we pay attention to your conflicting advice, delivered by means of a couple of random, out-of-context Bible verses?

      Is it more important to deliver abused, suffering LEF people from the control of hirelings, or to sit back and pat ourselves on the back because we have done nothing to help them, but done nothing 'lovingly'?

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    3. Were not the money-changers in the Temple Jesus' neighbors?

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    4. The money changers were the early ancestors of Daniels (directly related), who migrated to the LEF, Madras as more money was available here than in the Temple at Jerusalem.

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  2. well said bro Terry. hey anil, what you said is not for persons who willingly butcher innocent people. they are given still enough time by our merciful God to mend their ways like pharisees in those days. This blog in a way telling them about their misdeeds. if they come to repentance definitely they'll be loved by all. meanwhile you wake up and realise your position of blindness.. David paul

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  3. dear whistle blower, i know you just arrived from abroad couple of days ago and started posting nonsense blogs on web. i also know that you have good contacts with BG press people. superb talent? you think that nobody traced you...see how i traced you... i know who you're...jezebel...basically, those who are touched by god and guided by god daily can't do what you've done so far. as per my knowledge you're a blind person and have lost touch with god. it's none of your business to make someone public. are you accountable of their sins? if yes, you'll be a partaker of their sins and god'll bring you into judgment along with them. ok? then i'll see who'll be in heaven... --anil.

    at last thank you so much... bcz i thought you wouldn't post my comment.. but you did..

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    1. He / she arrived from Abroad, Is it a crime or an achievement, This is not a nonsense blog. Please check yourself. BG is a slave labor colony, where people are enslaved by Pharonic proportions. I dont have contacts, the slaves cry to me for deliverance, soon it will come. How dare you call Jezebel. let me tell you who the Jezebels are, If you are a man, try telling this to LLD or to Betty, will you have the guts, No you will roll on the ground as a puppy and whimper piteously at their look itself. Thank you for accepting that we have done something so far, this itself is an acceptance that the barbs hurt and are correctly targeted. As per my knowledge you are a blind man lead by a blind robbing family and all of you will fall into the ditch, (but they will sell you off for a donkey). Dont you read newspapers of watch TV, Should I not tell that robbers are ahead. God made Ezekiel a watchman, whose job was to blow the trumpet. Prophet Amos was even more stunning "I was neither a prophet nor the son of a prophet, but I was a shepherd, and I also took care of sycamore-fig trees.But the LORD took me from tending the flock and said to me, 'Go, prophesy to my people Israel.'Now then, hear the word of the LORD. You say, "'Do not prophesy against Israel, and stop preaching against the descendants of Isaac.'"Therefore this is what the LORD says: "'Your wife will become a prostitute in the city, and your sons and daughters will fall by the sword. Your land will be measured and divided up, and you yourself will die in a pagan country. And Israel will surely go into exile, away from their native land.'"
      (I hope and pray that this doesn't happen to you. but may, as many a women and child have been sexually exploited)

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  4. Anil, you have some capacity to imagine things. I should congratulate you for that. You know I arrived couple of days ago form abroad. Come and meet me and we can discuss this over a cup of coffee.

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  5. Anil do more such stuff and reveal names of all whistleblowers here and commenters in this blog. You may get some appreciation from the wicked, heartless and cunning Daniel clan. Your so called sermon type messages are not for this site dude and not at all suited in this situation. Go try elsewhere. Good luck.

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    1. Anil, go and do some circus stunts before Daniel clan you will be rewarded by printing your name in Monthly family magazine "Christ is victor" otherwise it would be a cost to give a prize.

      Dont waste your time. If you have any interest to set right LEF. Go and ask board members to give some graduation certificates for bible college students. And let the organisation give some money to the poor LEF preachers who had no other source of income for their basic living needs.

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  6. Part 1:
    Well said, Anonymous December 26, 2015 10:11 AM. This dude Anil thinks he has done a tremendous job of tracing the whistleblowers. So now what, Anil? You now are confident that you know who I am. You seem to know my every move. You seem to think that you know a lot of stuff about me. You may have done an extensive investigative work to find out that I have arrived from abroad two days ago. Next what? Did you tell John Daniel who I was? You should, man. Then you all can sit and brainstorm as to how to stop this blog. John Daniel is in desperate need of ideas to stop this blog and you surely can help him. But how can you help? You really cannot because for John Daniel and co. you are an insignificant insect. They don't value people like you. If they did, there wouldn't have been a need for a blog like this. If Lily Daniel and her wicked children can understand what kind of torture a person like you is going through for no apparent mistake of yours, they would not have brought down LEF to this low level. Here you are with undying zeal to protect the image of LEF but without any control on how stop the rot that is happening in LEF. If you had power to stop all the evil happening in LEF, would you have allowed Immanuel Chakravarthy who confessed to having an affair with a married woman with two children to have the power of attorney to deal with all financial transactions of LEF. Would you have allowed John Branch to come and preach for over 10 years in LEF while living in adultery? I don’t think you would have allowed all this seeing that you have great sentimental attachment to LEF and its leaders. I completely understand that you are disturbed, angry and feel helpless. You cannot confront Daniels and at the same time you are not able to bear to see people talking ill about LEF. So, you want to come and preach to us. How is that correct, Anil? I am not angry with you at all. I pity you. I wish I can help you and many people like you. You want to call me Jezebel. I can suggest some more names you can give me. But how is that going to help? How is calling me names going stop the rot in LEF?

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  7. Part 2:
    Anil. I understand that you love LEF and you are passionate about LEF and it is tormenting you that this blog is making people see the truth about LEF that you chose not to see. May be your family and friends are making fun of you for being a fool to be stuck with this LEF. They may be quoting what is posted on the blog to prove their point that you are a fool to hang on to LEF. Just like you, why can’t all the leaders come and write on the blog and defend LEF? A lot of people may know who I am. John Daniel himself might know who am I. I had personally written to him before starting this blog to do the right thing with a family that LEF has mercilessly driven out of a center. I have written to him that if he fails to do that, I will bring the rot in LEF to a public forum. In his arrogance, John Daniel refused to see the writing on the wall. Here we are after almost a year of this blog, making a huge dent to LEF treasury. There are so many legal ways to stop this blog if LEF leaders are really clean people. LEF can file a defamation case against me but then in order for LEF to do that, it has to have a clean record. Ask John Daniel why he is not able to file a case against me. Anil, you need to show your anger against the people who allowed LEF to rot that empowered a person like me to bring it to public forum. Your anger cannot be misplaced. Do you think calling me a Jezebel or some other name is going to hurt my feelings so much that I will quit on this blog? You are just a fool think like that? I am not one of those who can be scared off. If I were, I would not have taken this risk to come out in public to do what I am doing. So, please don’t waste your time and breathe on this anymore. If you are a man enough, file a case on me (now that you know who I am) in any country and court of your choice and I will come and meet you there. Till then, good bye. Your comments will not be entertained on this blog any more till you prove to me that you are man enough to wage a legal war against me in courts.

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  8. Anil: the identities of the Whistleblowers have never been a state secret. You seem to be very proud of yourself for thinking that you have identified one of them. This is not a game. It is a very serious matter. If you did not like the facts that you have read about here, which have been supplied by many people from different countries and backgrounds, all with considerable experience of LEF, then you should have offered evidence to prove that they are untrue, not embarked on silly guessing games.

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  9. Most of the LEF people are slowly coming to the realization that the organization is a family business. late JD was an ordinary cunning man whom we made a Baba. Now his son John is the new Baba. They have their customized flavor of Christianity which is totally wrong .This blog is read by almost all Lef people who have access to the Internet. We do not have to take people like Anil who have been planted by the Goonda family seriously.

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  10. Dear whistle blower

    Please Dont stop this blog till LEF is shut down.

    Attending LEF is worse than 3rd degree torcher. Its only about pleasing the evangelist and the daniel family. It's really sad to see people praying "god use lily Daniel , john Daniel ect mightily" ect. Ho how I pity these people. Only god has to open their understanding. LEF has plucked their eyes out. Also there is no sermon without mention of joe daniel in 99% centeres.
    Even in CSI and RC churches you can sense reverence to god and calmness.

    I am a person whose life was torn to pieces only because of LEF's policies. Lef did not fix it and cannot fix it and can never fix it.
    Damage done .. No regrets.. God will help me come out. No need sympathy and empathy.

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  11. Dear LEF victims, and others who have reason to want the despotic reign of LEF terminated and the Daniels made accountable,

    Many of you have already supplied evidence, privately, about the continuing misdeeds of members of the Daniel family and their henchmen. Please continue to do so. The file against them has become enormous. The scandal of John Branch's ongoing adultery, whilst he was still being encouraged by the Daniels to preach at May retreats and young people's meetings, was but one abuse made known via a private communication which was backed by concrete evidence to confirm it.

    God has brought about the dethroning of other such religious groups and hypocrites, people who have set themselves and others up in in His name, but have acted in contradiction to His revealed Word, ultimately in the interests of their own power and personal gain. However He usually does this through the agency of men. Take no notice of those who tell you that you should merely 'pray about' the LEF abuses without acting. Prayer is necessary, but advocating passive acceptance is the weapon that the Daniels have been wielding against you quite calculatedly for decades in order to stop you taking any firm action which might bring an end to their income and topple them from power.

    Helping to bring an end to decades of Daniel abuse, and the apostate preaching that allows it, is not a sinful act of revenge, but an act of obedience in relation to Jesus's and the apostles' condemnation of hirelings. Martin Luther was not afraid to post his 39 theses publicly on the door of a significant church when the Roman Catholic hierachy was making millions from imposing its practice of selling 'indulgences' (false tickets to heaven!) to ignorant people from whom it had withheld free, personal access to the Bible. The Daniels have not been able to withhold access to the Bible from you, but they have corrupted the contents of God's Word in order to browbeat and control you.

    Whistleblowers have had the courage to take firm action. You have the opportunity to assist them. You can contact them privately if you wish. Please do so if you have useful information which can be confirmed, and which will help to bring an end to the poisonous Daniel regime and its spiritually dangerous, self-serving 'empire', the Laymen's Evangelical Fellowship.

    Clearly the Whistleblower are not going to abandon their efforts to do this, and neither should you.



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  12. Dear Anil, I read your post more with pity than anger, This is what the Daniel clan will do to its followers.
    on this Christmas day, try to think of your past life. once you're a sinner saved by Jesus. did you forget all?
    Why only on Christmas day, I think of my past life every day and pray.
    Read 1 cor 13 chapter and pray god that you should no harm to your neighbor.
    Sorry but this verse is not in the place you quote, please ask your bible teachers to learn and teach better.
    bible says "love does no ill to his neighbor". what you're posting is against your neighbor in the sight of god. and it's also against the second commandment of Jesus who said "love your neighbor as your self".
    Jesus said "after I am gone Ferocious wolves which will not spare the flock will come". It has already happened in the LEF
    I have to love my neighbor as myself also means that I must first love myself isnt it, and those who depend on me also. I cant keep quiet when hirelings and open thieves break in to steal to rape to kill.
    if people who read this blog are turning away from god, you're none other than a stumbling block and a whitewashed tomb.
    People who read this blog turn from following a fraud family towards God, not away from him, please check your head and your compass.
    more over, learn what it means to say "i desire mercy, not sacrifice". In the LEF it is. now I desire, deserve money not mercy so update yourself. just think of what you've done so far before going to bed everyday...
    I cant think of what all I have done in my life in a night.. Night is too short
    may god bless you... --anil
    You need not ask God to Bless me, Anyway he will do so
    The same God said You shall not steal, You shall not covet, Anyway you got your salt biscuit and licked the boots of the daniels, enjoy

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  13. To the lines "THE PURPOSE OF THIS BLOG IS TO EXPOSE THE FALSE TEACHINGS, HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SEXUAL ABUSES AND FINANCIAL MISAPPROPRIATIONS BY LEADERS OF LAYMEN'S EVANGELICAL FELLOWSHIP...." you must add the following at the end . Please understand that your good will and offerings are used to live an extravagant all expenses paid lifestyle in the USA. The poor in India support this super rich family to USA standards. Stop giving your tithes and Offerings. Demand Accounts for the money already given. Run away from this fraud family business church. You have been adequately warned.

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    1. Thank you for your suggeestions. We definitely want to put much more to give a grand introduction to this fraud family.
      The blog has a limit on the number of characters that we can put as an introduction to the blog. May be we can keep changing the introduction to include all of what you have suggested.

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  14. 1 Corinthians 4:1:

    In an effort to stop the division among the Corinthians over what minister they should follow, Paul had discredited putting faith in the people that God used to deliver the message. They were only the “delivery boys.” That might lead some to criticize Paul, saying he was trying to sidestep responsibility. He dealt with that issue here.

    Ministers are responsible to God as stewards. Stewards are not the master, and they do not get the glory for carrying out the instructions of the master. But they are responsible, and they do have to give account of their actions. Likewise, ministers must be faithful and have to give account, but to whom?

    In 1 Corinthians 4:3 Paul made it very clear that the Corinthians were not his judge. He didn’t even judge his own self (1 Corinthians 4:3). 1 Corinthians 4:4 says that God was Paul’s judge.

    Paul was establishing the rules of accountability for ministers. They are not accountable to the people they minister to. They have to answer directly to God.

    Most people can’t understand this. They think that surely the body of believers must have some role to play in the correction of wayward ministers, and they do, indirectly. However, God has not given the authority to any group or individual member of a church to go and correct the pastor.

    Ministers should voluntarily surround themselves with peers to whom they submit and to whom they give the authority to speak words of correction into their lives. Some denominations accomplish this by having a bishop, superintendent, or other spiritual leadership that exercises authority over ministers who are licensed with them. This denominational system as it exists today, however, goes far beyond voluntary intervention and influence. Most churches and denominations are set up where they can fire the minister.

    No one has absolute authority over a minister except God. Therefore, scripturally, you can’t kick a minister out of a church or denomination. That’s what Paul was saying here. What these Corinthians thought of him didn’t affect him. God was his judge.

    That might lead some people to fear that we, as those who are being ministered to, have no recourse in dealing with ministers. That’s not so. We do have a very effective method of reproving ministers. It’s just a different method than what most people employ.

    In Revelation 2:5, the Lord spoke to the pastor at Ephesus and told him to repent or He would come and remove the body of believers out from under him (Revelation 1:20 with Revelation 2:5). The recourse that individual members of the body of Christ have against ministers who are in error is to leave or quit listening to those ministers. This is very effective.

    Pastors who lose all their members lose all their authority. They are reduced to nothing. Anyone who has had even a casual knowledge of ministers and how they think will know that most ministers, especially carnal ones who are causing trouble, are very moved by how people respond to them. An exodus of members will get their attention.

    This, of course, is not encouraging church splits and the like. The first thing that should always be done is to try and reconcile any differences (Matthew 18:17). It may not be the minister who has the problem or there may just be a misunderstanding. Every attempt to walk in unity should be attempted, but if it comes to a situation where a minister is persistent in gross error, just leave.

    This could be illustrated through an employer/employee relationship. Employees do not have the authority to rebuke or fire an employer. A good employer will have some system to allow employees to air grievances, but it really is voluntary. If the boss refuses to change, the only real course of action for the employees is to leave. Likewise, church members who feel that their differences with the pastor are irreconcilable should leave.

    It is really a lack of faith to think that God cannot deal with a disobedient minister without us helping out. The Lord can bring anyone to his or her knees (Daniel 4).

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  15. John, I should congratulate you for the scholarly attempt of telling LEF people to leave the Daniels alone in what seems to be in a very sophisticated way. You must've done quite a bit of digging up from the Bible to make your point sound very Godly and Biblical. What the guy Anil and some other nincompoops said in a very boorish way is what you are trying to say with much more sophistication by using some high sounding logic and generous references from Bible. So, you are saying it is nobody's job to correct wayward ministers, in this case Daniels. Did we hear that right? In the same lines of your earlier comment, could you consider doing the following? John, can you kindly enlighten us on who exactly is a minister? How does someone exactly get to the status of a minister? What are the qualificatios? Are there any prerequisites? Is there any prescribed method of appointing someone as a minister? Just like you have used several references from the Bible as to what to do with a wayward minister, could you also please give Bible references to expound on how one becomes a minister? That way we can go to the bottom of things if the LEF leaders and appointees can even be called ministers. If their appointment of becoming a minister was done by fraudulent means, then all of the methods you have suggested as to how to deal with a wayward minister will become null and void. Also, how to tell apart a biblical minister from a fraudulent self appointed minister? What are the recourses Bible provides to deal with fraudulent ministers? Our readers are looking forward to your scholarly exposé

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  16. John:

    Your understanding of the position of church leaders in the New Testament church is flawed.

    Paul was an apostle, not an appointed church elder (as a pastor is). He was the last of the apostles. No more apostles came after Paul.

    If you read the pastoral and other epistles more carefully, you will see that subsequent men who became church leaders (who were, and are, appointed with the approval of the church to whom they were called to minister) were not invulnerable; neither were they answerable 'only to God'. They were answerable ultimately to God, especially in respect of the manner in which they shepherded the local body of Christ whom they were called to nurture, but they were also answerable to their church memberships, those 'sheep' who had called them into the ministry of preaching and teaching in the first place.

    You cannot invent a whole doctrine out of a single passage of Scripture.

    The only point about which I would agree with you is that, in practical terms, LEF victims should indeed cease giving LEF and the Daniels money, or attending its meetings, or supporting it in any way.

    The only reason why LEF victims are unable to oust their corrupt leaders is because LEF has never been a properly ordered church with a biblical constitution. If it were, the leadership would be as subject as any other church member to church discipline, including removal from leadership positions, or even from the fellowship itself, if necessary.

    Given that the Daniels cannot be disciplined in the biblical way, because LEF is not a biblical church, and they are not biblically appointed leaders, it is entirely necessary that they be publicly exposed in the way that they are being. Since they are unrepentant about the abuses, including financial abuses, which they have perpetrated, it is entirely proper that they be brought to the attention of the secular authorities.

    Has anyone considered that if the Daniels were not to be subject to public exposure and condemnation, they would quite easily be able to start up another 'ministry scam' elsewhere under a different title, even if LEF collapses?

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  17. I was thinking the LEF goers as " oh Poor sheep, following the butcher" No no no , these are not sheep, innocent and pure and transparent; these LEF goers are none but donkeys.. docile and ignorant and useless mass. They want to close their eyes and drink milk like the little cats in the corner of the room thinking that nobody sees them. so stupid and docile like the donkeys. One fellow was telling me " you only taught us to be obedient and follow the leader" Alas, I never that this big fellow is so stupid. I never told him to be so, I told him to follow Jesus, and I taught him to live like a family with others in the church, loving and attending the needs of others. What happened about all that, he is so stupid to say so, because I myself not following those useless leaders, how can he follow such useless self styled usurping muffs? This fellows oppress the others and devide the families, and cruelly torture them not to go to home for christmas, but eats in the inlaws house and church members houses, sleeps in AC rooms meant and built for JD when he was alive. talks loftly on pulpit and sneaks into the houses of the donkeys and licks the plates they serve. he roams from village to village eats till his tummy bulges out and tellls the poor boys in bg to starve to the utmost. Donkeys still attend his orders, and wags their tails to and fro.

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  18. Yet an other pathetic and total misleading message by JJD last sunday.the guiding star not just led the wise men from east but also sheperds,mary and joseph @34min and again intentionally repeated the guiding star led joseph to egypt @39 min of archive community christ church dt.27th dec.2015.
    I wonder even sunday school childten wont do that mistake..i don know how much time spent inprayer without properly reading word he came to pulpit...

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    1. However reason to celebrate: John Daniel seems to have stopped referring to God as 'Goad'! Can he have had the common sense to take our advice and stop making himself look silly with this constant and public mispronunciation (dating back decades)?

      Well done John! Now lets see if you can take our advice on more serious issues.

      Stop taking money under false pretences from your Indian compatriots who have not had your material advantages (we cannot say 'spiritual advantages', since growing up as a Daniel under the tutelage of your parents has been much more of a spiritual disadvantage for you). Get a job!

      Stop trying to preach. You have no gift. You do not understand basic Christian theology, and certainly not ecclesiology. You have a dubious background of which you have not yet repented. You have not been called to preach, either by God, or by mature Christian church elders, or by any biblical means. Your parents have misled you, but you are grown up now and you should be able to resist your mother's pressure on you to occupy the pulpit.

      Let us see how many decades it will take John Daniel to follow our advice on these matters.

      'God' and not 'Goad' is a start though. 'Lord' and not 'Lard' may follow....

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    2. Dear Anonymous January 04, 2016 3:39 PM, I got excited that John Daniel was trying to change his ways but alas, that is far from truth. His referring to God as GOAD and Job as Joab and John as Joan are all his ways of customizing his "preaching" to the Indian and other colored crowd. For instance, in his Guyana "preaching" it is GOAD but then the following Sunday while he is "preaching" in Detroit it is GOD. That is a lot to keep up with. This poor guy has to focus his entire attention on saying GOAD in India and elsewhere GOD in USA. No wonder he has no bandwidth left to focus on giving the right information while "preaching." Things like saying Noah sat at Jesus' feet and shepherds, Joseph and Mary followed the star from the east are results of having a huge confusion in the mind as he is using his brain power to switch between God and Goad. What a fool this supposedly grown up man is making of himself. I wonder what his daughters think of this man's struggle with God and Goad. This man John Daniel seems to spending way too much energy to change his tone, facial expressions and pronunciation to preach in India. While preaching in Detroit, he keeps mumbling for the most part as if he is scared of people hearing him clearly. He has eyes closed for the most part and this may be a way of avoiding to see the reality that there are more empty pews in his personal church than occupied pews. His "preaching" style seems to be some kind of tip-toeing around people in the fear that he might step on people's toes while he is US. Then when he is preaching in India, he wants to show off his arrogance. So chest out, eyes open and a quirky look on the face are all aimed at making people feel inferior and small. It seems to be his intent to show himself as superior but all this John Daniel manages to do is project himself like a jerk whom nobody can take seriously. That's exactly what Joshua Daniel his dad did...he acted and preached like a big JERK. The only difference is that Joshua Daniel had a certain class to present himself as a genuinely arrogant jerk and John Daniel misses that class and comes out more as buffoon than an arrogant jerk.

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    3. Whistleblower 4 Jan. 6.54pm

      Are you sure about this? If so, the spark of anticipation I felt yesterday on hearing John Daniel say 'God' instead of 'Goad' in his 'Novi Cathedral' Sunday morning family gathering, I mean 'service', is being replaced by a kind of creeping despair. However 'Job' really is pronounced 'Joab' (and not 'Job' to rhyme with 'fob') so can I still dare to hope a little?

      Seriously, though (and this certainly is serious), how could so many Indian LEF people (and a handful of expatriate Germans, and two aging Australians, and one American adulterer) give a cunning trickster like Joshua Daniel and an ignorant poser like John Daniel so much credence that they commit their time and energies to fostering these men's dubious utterences, and in the case of the Indians, commit a large part of their incomes and possessions to them too?

      Correction: the aging Australians and the American adulterer are in fact beneficiaries of this poisonous LEF organisation, so that explains them. Hankering after and experiencing power over an unaccustomed crowd of captive hearers can have all sorts of nasty effects on a man, as in the case of the adulterer, John Branch. 'Practise what you preach' is an old adage which seems to have escaped the notice of most LEF retreat preachers.

      As regards the ex-patriate Germans, the jury's still out. Can they help us to understand their decades of unquestioning servitude to the Daniel family business?
      Are they really as naive as people claim? Surely not.......

      Anyway, coming back to the Novi Cathedral activities, can anyone enlighten us as to the source of the frightful, clattering piano playing accompanying John Daniel's raucous, and apparently solo, hymn-singing which punctuates these occasions? Is it a machine, or has someone in the Daniel family been taking lessons from Auntie Betty in the copious use of random and redundant arpeggios?

      Setting irony aside, STOP GIVING YOUR TRUST, TIME AND MONEY TO CLOWNS AND CONFIDENCE TRICKSTERS.

      The fact is that 'God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life'.

      No LEF, Daniels, or retreats needed........

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