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Let us not worry about anything. The time has come to destroy these rogues. They will fight themselves and come to streets very soon. They will soon understand their evil plans have devoured them. True believers keep praying. God will make a NEW way. How long they can run. LD will be called home in next few years because of these turmoil. I see that she is already undergoing lot of torments because of LEF property and business. Her regular sleep is gone. Her health is sinking. Her eye sight is becoming dull. God will close all the doors. Just wait and see! IC has drafted all his plans to overtake Daniel Family. There is already a big smoke between JJD and Junior LD (JLD). JJD is unhappy with JLD because of her dual play. JJD has to learn many things. He can't only change his dress code for America and India. He also has to change his behavior. Should learn treat senior servants of God well. India is full of cultural stand and everyone should respect it. I am not saying that we should worship it but we should respect it. JJD is changing his dress code in India because India is not a place where we can go with Suite all the places. I don’t know why he is not understanding the people climate. We can't treat or behave as he is doing with western or Europeans. India has its own values so as the seniors too. The best way to protest these guys is to STOP going and attending and following these useless team. Start exploring the best church near to your place. Don't travel to places to attend annual retreat whereas you can help others and preach others. Don't send money to LEF, see that your tithe is used for God's glory. Ask God to give you Wisdom and understanding. These guys may say bad about you or even they will be ready to curse you. But don’t worry about anything. God has created us for his purpose. Nothing is going to harm you until he is at our side. Carry on with your good work and keep praying. I have a question to Whistleblower, Can we send a note to High-court of Tamil Nadu having this blog is the evidence of something wrong going on in LEF org? Will they consider this and start investigating on it? Please throw some light.
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Let us not worry about anything. The time has come to destroy these rogues. They will fight themselves and come to streets very soon. They will soon understand their evil plans have devoured them. True believers keep praying. God will make a NEW way. How long they can run. LD will be called home in next few years because of these turmoil. I see that she is already undergoing lot of torments because of LEF property and business. Her regular sleep is gone. Her health is sinking. Her eye sight is becoming dull. God will close all the doors. Just wait and see! IC has drafted all his plans to overtake Daniel Family. There is already a big smoke between JJD and Junior LD (JLD). JJD is unhappy with JLD because of her dual play. JJD has to learn many things. He can't only change his dress code for America and India. He also has to change his behavior. Should learn treat senior servants of God well. India is full of cultural stand and everyone should respect it. I am not saying that we should worship it but we should respect it. JJD is changing his dress code in India because India is not a place where we can go with Suite all the places. I don’t know why he is not understanding the people climate. We can't treat or behave as he is doing with western or Europeans. India has its own values so as the seniors too. The best way to protest these guys is to STOP going and attending and following these useless team. Start exploring the best church near to your place. Don't travel to places to attend annual retreat whereas you can help others and preach others. Don't send money to LEF, see that your tithe is used for God's glory. Ask God to give you Wisdom and understanding. These guys may say bad about you or even they will be ready to curse you. But don’t worry about anything. God has created us for his purpose. Nothing is going to harm you until he is at our side. Carry on with your good work and keep praying. I have a question to Whistleblower, Can we send a note to High-court of Tamil Nadu having this blog is the evidence of something wrong going on in LEF org? Will they consider this and start investigating on it? Please throw some light.
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This is in response to the above comment:
Thank you, Anonymous October 29, 2015 10:17 PM for your insight into what is happening with this family. Rivalry among siblings is the curse that this Daniel family has been under for several decades. Senior Mrs. Daniel spent her entire life sorting out the fights that constantly brewed among her children. The three children of Mr and Mrs. Daniel who died so far had miserable deaths. The guy from Bangalore was kept as a captive during his last days by his wicked and manipulative wife. The next one who died in Trichy had her own share of woes on her death bed. The all-powerful Joshua Daniel died as another captive. None other than his own daughter claims that Joshua Daniel died of starvation. The last surviving member of the senior Daniel family has been exiled from her home and is taking refuge from some kind folks in Salem. As this is not enough, she is mentally stuck and lost her memory. LEF PEOPLE SHOULD BE UNDER TREMENDOUS DARKNESS NOT TO REALIZE THAT GOD HAS REFUSED TO BLESS THIS FAMILY. Go and examine the lives of next generation of Daniel family children and see how many of them are worth following as examples.
Thank you, Anonymous October 29, 2015 10:17 PM for your insight into what is happening with this family. Rivalry among siblings is the curse that this Daniel family has been under for several decades. Senior Mrs. Daniel spent her entire life sorting out the fights that constantly brewed among her children. The three children of Mr and Mrs. Daniel who died so far had miserable deaths. The guy from Bangalore was kept as a captive during his last days by his wicked and manipulative wife. The next one who died in Trichy had her own share of woes on her death bed. The all-powerful Joshua Daniel died as another captive. None other than his own daughter claims that Joshua Daniel died of starvation. The last surviving member of the senior Daniel family has been exiled from her home and is taking refuge from some kind folks in Salem. As this is not enough, she is mentally stuck and lost her memory. LEF PEOPLE SHOULD BE UNDER TREMENDOUS DARKNESS NOT TO REALIZE THAT GOD HAS REFUSED TO BLESS THIS FAMILY. Go and examine the lives of next generation of Daniel family children and see how many of them are worth following as examples.
Dear LEF folks, do you want your daughters to be barren? Do
you want your daughters to go through multiple marriages? Do you want your
daughters to be still unmarried at 42? Do you want your 50+ year old son with 5
growing children not have a job to support himself, his wife and his children? Watch out
carefully when you endorse this Daniel family children as your leaders. People
cannot give what they don’t have. These people are paupers spiritually, mentally,
emotionally and financially. They cannot help you to have peaceful and happy
families as they never had happy families.
A person who is under a curse will only pass on that curse
to you and your children. Open your eyes and see that this family is under terrible
curse – a curse that makes the children coming from the same womb to be at
constant strife and war with each other. Ask Lily Daniel when was the last time she had
her whole family (five children, spouses and grandchildren) gathered at one place
to enjoy the company of each other. Joshua Daniel and Lily Daniel have at least
4 other grandchildren apart from those 5 show case pieces that are show cased
at every available opportunity to the ignorant LEF folks. Why are the other 4
grandchildren not to be seen? Did any of you ever wonder about that?
The stupid Lydia Daniel ended her tribute to her dad on his
first anniversary with some esoteric quote from the Bible that they will know
her dad by his fruits - “Ye shall
know them by their fruits…” Also, this derelict female who is
quickly matching up in physical size and mental capacity to her oldest sister
(who is constantly craving and dying for attention) has nothing much to tell
the ignorant people sitting at that anniversary service except that her dad was
part of the solution (this fool Lydia Daniel repeated this same statement 10 times in
her insane speech). May we ask what solution her dad was part of? What kind of
fruit has he left behind? He left behind a bunch of mavericks and morons who are kicking
around like wild donkeys trying to get to the top in LEF. Lydia Daniel, is that
what your dad tried to solve his entire life but never succeeded to solve? Also, Lydia Daniel, did you hear yourself when you said that your parents were a great team? What kind of team leaders raise children who cannot stand each other and who are coming to the streets to spew venom at each other? YOUR parents raised social misfits and dysfunctional individuals who are all out to destroy the good work of hundreds of hard working evangelists. May we suggest that you read over your stupid ramblings before you come to deliver them in public.
Here
is another question to Betty Daniel who did her own tribute to her dad on the
TV… You said your father was a man of faith. May we ask you what kind of faithful
man was your dad who evidently could not be faithful in raising his 5 children to love and
respect each other? What was he faithful in? He FAILED miserably in his primary
duty of being a good parent to his own children – a man who could not gather up
his children to stand in one accord even at his death bed.
If these Daniel children are honest with themselves they
will acknowledge that Joshua Daniel was a FATHER OF CONFUSION which is
openly demonstrated in the lives of his own children. JOSHUA DANIEL – A FATHER OF CONFUSION should be the epitaph on that monstrous
monument that they now erected in Kilpauk cemetery. If there is anything
one can learn from this family, it is just one lesson – YOU NEVER WANT TO BE LIKE ANY ONE OF THEM. THIS FAMILY IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOUR
FAMILY SHOULD NOT BE LIKE.
The first year memorial service was certainly revealing (and embarrassing to watch). The tribute the Sunday school children were made to perform magnified and glorified JD, whilst Jesus barely got a mention! This culminated in a sort of 'tableau of Heaven', in which a boy intended to be Joshua Daniel arriving in glory (know him by his hat!) received countless accolades, apparently including from Jesus himself (Jesus was the one with the curly wig and crown, who was mostly relegated to standing behind 'Joshua Daniel' until it was time for him ('Jesus') to come forward and add his fulsome praise of 'Joshua' to that of the children).
ReplyDeleteYour assessment of Lydia Daniel's 'tribute' is painfully accurate. She said nothing truthful or of consequence, but said it with a commanding air (copying the dad?), and took far too long in the process! She wore a dress which was much too short, both for the occasion, and in terms of lack of respect for the decently attired Indian lady and gentleman listeners. She spoke of her father's strong disapproved of social networking sites - yet she herself still has a Facebook account (on which she admires various male 'motivational speakers', whose fake techniques and mannerisms permeate her own platform manner! Her mother, Lily, only recently closed her own Facebook account when the Whistleblowers quoted her post about having 'got lots of swag').
John contributed another of his tedious and uninspired (either by the Holy Spirit, or even by his father's glibness) set of ramblings -one hesitates to call them 'sermons', or even 'talks'.
Betty was conspicuous by her absence, having been barred from LEF platforms - conspicuous not because her piano crashings and vocal shriekings were missed, but because it seems odd to have a memorial service without the eldest child present. Although Betty, as ever, contrived to be in India at the same time as her mother, brother and sister; a sort of menacing shadow, perhaps even capable of appearing, unannounced and uninvited? She describes this as a 'mission trip'. Rumour has it that she would like to take on the Indian authorities in her brother's place - anything for attention!
Lily looked tired and contributed nothing we have not heard and been bored by a million times. All that running around looking for ways of averting the official enquiry into Daniel financial irregularities re LEF is clearly taking it out of her. At least she was decently attired.
Peter Iqbal, an elderly gentleman (an in-law?), recounted some lengthy anecdotes which were largely inaudible.
No sign of the two other sons, who had the integrity to stay away from this sad affair.
As the Whistleblowers write, this is not a family to revere spiritually, or imitate, or support financially. The best one can do is to turn one's back on them and allow them to depart into obscurity, hence retaining one last shred of dignity.
Any one know why big bro.priyanath's daughter was getting married in some soo called seventh day hall I think... Ld &lld were attending to it.
ReplyDeleteLef board member's daughter marriage out of LEF. So funny to listen...
Why then if someone in lef gets married out lef will be kicked....so ridiculous....
Any one know what's the inner issues?
Bro.Priyanath's daughter's marriage arrangement should not be discussed in this forum.Any individual is welcome to marry a person of their choice anywhere.As Christians we must wish any couple that are to be married the very best.Marrying outside the framework of LEF is not an issue.No one should be bullied or forced to marry a person whom they dislike (this was the case in LEF since 60's to 2000 (the only exception was the big man's family.
DeleteI mean. If someone gets married out of LEF he will be writing letters to Hq to kick them out of LEF. And this bro. Priyanath getting her daughter to be married out of LEF so he also have to be kicked off.
DeleteAny partiality?
Getting married anywhere in or out Lef we don't care as it is honored above all the word says. But look at these people what they do...
will you tell me how many families were forced by Mr. Priyanath to marry their children at the wishes of priyanath & JD? If your answer is NIL then we will not discuss his daughter's marriage in this forum.
DeleteFrom the beginning LEF is not against using others' facilities for solemnizing marriages of their children, conducting meetings, and even preaching in their churches. JD's own son, Joseph's marriage was solemnized in Wesleyan church in the US, not at the HQ.
DeleteThe Daniels certainly have no right to teach others about the do's and don't's of marriage. Of course Betty Daniel's multiple marriages are common knowledge. Less well-known are that both John Daniel and Joseph Daniel were both engaged to German LEF girls and each dumped them (John to a woman named Dorothy and Joseph to a woman named Birgitta). Both of these woman were from faithful LEF families. Both families left the LEF after this shameful behavior.
DeleteThe names of the ladies you mentioned were wrong: better not talk rather than giving wrong info.
DeleteAnonymous Nov. 4 @ 4.22am
DeleteIf Joseph Daniel was married in a Wesleyan church in the USA, would this not have been:
a) because Joshua Daniel wanted his children to be regarded as bona fide 'Americans', and hence to be married in a bona fide American church, and not in some building hired or purchased by him in the USA for the assembling of a group run, and largely attended, by ex-patriot Indians - even if he and his family were the Indians acting as 'leaders' of it?
b) because in any case Joshua Daniel, an Indian immigrant himself of dubious status (on what basis was he allowed to settle in the USA, since he had no appropriate professional skills, hence did not work, as do other Indians resident in the USA, and had no legitimate personal income that we know of ? Was he relying on the fact that he was the father of children whose births he had engineered to be in the USA?) had no legal authorisation to solemnise marriages in the USA, or indeed to obtain a licence for the solemnisation of marriages in respect of any building he hired or bought (with money exported from the Indians he apparently so despised in his native land)?
c) because, perhaps, the couple themselves wanted to be properly and conventionally married in the setting of a real church, and under the direction and authority of a real minister of religion?
Whatever may be the case (and perhaps someone can clarify further), Joshua Daniel's desire to distance himself and his family from their Indian roots (whilst at the same time cashing in on those same roots in order to finance this not very admirable ambition!) became clear to the Americans and Canadians he tried to attract to his organisation; according to what they have written, the way they saw and heard him manifest contempt for fellow Indians was one of the factors in their decision to abandon him, and in fact to eject him from their midst.
Therefore the Indians whom he despised, especially in India, should do precisely the same with what now remains of the Daniel organisation, LEF, and its 'leadership' regime. It is a matter of self-respect.
Can someone give some details about Betty Daniel's multiple marriages? They are often referred to here. It seems that she married someone called 'Brian', and then someone called 'Chris', and now she is married to someone called Charles Lambdin. She claimed on Facebook that she was the innocent party in the divorces. However this, if true, still presents questions. Even if she was foolish enough to marry two adulterers in fairly quick succession, that alone would disqualify her from being any kind of spiritual authority, which she currently claims to be.
DeleteShe is known to read this blog, so perhaps she would like to explain her matrimonial exploits herself.
Dorothy and Birgitta should be eternally grateful for their escape from being linked by marriage to the discredited Daniel clan. Likewise their families must be grateful that their eyes were opened, and hopefully they found genuine Christian fellowship elsewhere.
DeleteIs the account verification finished? Why Ld and lld were still in HQ?
DeleteDear Anonymous November 04, 2015 6:43 AM, how technical you want to get with getting the names wrong? The idea is not to get the names right (just in case they are wrong) but to show what kind of vultures and hypocrites the Daniel family rogues are. Silly and immature people like you are the reason for LEF to be in the pitiable condition such as this. People like you are trained by these Daniel family rogues to jump up and down like monkeys when someone misses a small detail to try and divert people from seeing the big picture to understand the rot in LEF. Some jokers in LEF are perfectly trained to be slum leaders who are good at playing cheap street politics.
DeleteDear Anonymous November 04, 2015 6:43 AM, first of all a special thanks for not denying that 2 christian girls were dumped. It seems you do know their names (as you are emphatic that the names are wrong, so please correct us. please indicate the names) FYI, one of the girls name is Dorothy, she had come to Woodcote Bungalow in 1990's for advanced training and suitability (in all aspects). Ok She slept on the bed and JJD slept on the floor. She got convinced that the JD family was a bunch of hypocrites and started attending another church meetings and she was unceremoniously dumped (as Gawd had told the JD clan). Now she would be definitely more happy and contented. Joseph Daniel might have dumped Birgitta (but today's information is this, his wife dumped him with 2 kids and ran away, was it Birgitta, may / may not be). Even JD and his father Sr.Daniel dumped a telugu qualified lecturer lady after giving her a commitment / engagement. (seems the Sr.Daniel and his wife heard from some busy body that this girls family had a history of being non submissive, the poor girl remained unmarried , she is a sister / cousin of "King ruby), We old timers now laugh, that the same submissive daughter in law has become so much cunning and venomous. One more great dandy refused to marry a girl, Then she was proposed to another man, who agreed, The dandy suddenly returned and told his mother I am not marrying my girl friend (maybe she had refused), and expressed his desire to marry the girl he had already refused. (What if she had been suggested to another, who had agreed), the Daniel family was not one to be stopped by such small inconvenient facts. The dandies marriage was fixed and solemnized within a week. The poor boy was dumped out of the LEF (he became a very useful and successful christian preacher). Another Dad had a beautiful, rich and accomplished daughter, from one of the noble families of the LEF, Like all Dads, he had discussed about her marriage to few LEF evangelists. So to a boy they made the suggestion, That prayerful(!) boy took his own time and prayed for guidance. In the meantime a boy in another country immediately agreed (I do accept, speed is critical when the girl is beautiful, rich and qualified). Now the girl had to decide between a country rat and an international rat, No surprises the International rat was selected, the country rat squealed, "what about Gods will", we all consoled him and told him," boyo, there can be 2 gods wills, but next time be fast as only the fast cat can get a rat", that boy cried, we all told him, "Cry thee not" I wrote all these only to inform that History need not be erased nor modified, the actual black truth, even if it is inconvenient, must needs to be told.Why act and fraud, as if we all are angels?
DeleteCan you please stop writing about the private lives of people.It is not right to discuss it in a blog.
DeleteDear AnonymousNovember 09, 2015 4:21 AM, we definitely appreciate your sentiment. Please do remember that the actions that we do to inflict pain and agony to others are like bouncy balls that we throw at others. Those bouncy balls are sure to bounce back. After all, isn't John Daniel's strong belief that "WHAT YOU SOW IS WHAT YOU REAP." How fair is it for people like you to cry foul when Daniel family is reaping bitter fruit of their malicious actions. Also, when it comes to talking about Daniel family, you are showing morality and saying that it is not right to talk about "private" lives of people. Did you ever show the same kind of morality and walk up to goons in LEF while they get on the stage and give their sermons and half of their sermons were targeted towards one family or an individual. Did you ever walk up to the old man who died a year who half the time blabbered and talked about the private of lives of people who attended his meetings or who came to talk to him in private? What was ever "private" in LEF?
DeleteJoseph Daniel married a young Swiss girl named Lina in, I believe, 1993. Lina was influenced by the Swiss and Canadian LEF (by the way, you never hear about the small Swiss LEF anymore either; they also became disillusioned). Of course Lina stayed for a short time with the Daniels in the US. Almost no non-Daniel LEF people came to their wedding. In fact, JD was not involved in the ceremony at all. I heard this was mainly coming from Joseph who didn't want to listen to yet another Joshua Daniel message during his own wedding. This doesn't mean that all the non-Daniel LEFers got off easy. One Canadian brother was expected to drive eight hours to photograph the wedding. Not only did he have to cover his own expenses, but JD got upset with this brother that he had not taken off work to arrive a day early to take pictures of the wedding rehearsal. And let's be clear, it's not like Joseph had a relationship with this brother. This was just more LEF slave labor. The Daniels had no qualms about using people, Indian or otherwise. Since I left the LEF many years ago, I am not aware of how Joseph and Lina are doing, so I cannot corroborate the report that Joseph's wife left him.
DeleteDear Blowers, Kindly send us some informations about evangelists who are labouring in South india, we want to know some issues to be clarified, Kindly send us information about Ooty conoor philip Uncle,Swamidas Uncle, Paul Aathi Uncle, C.Paul Uncle, Dr.Franklin Uncle, Israel Uncle in Metupalayam, Gnanaprakasam Uncle in Salem, Israel Uncle in Erode, James Smith Uncle in Avinashi, Gilles Mano Uncle in Tiruchy, Dr. Joshua Jesudas Uncle in Coimbatore, John Raja Uncle, Dr.Johnson Uncle in Bhavani, Israel Uncle in Tirunelveli, Dr.Jeyanth Uncle, Raju guru Uncle, Jesu Uncle in Royapuram, Gunalan Uncle, Gunalan Uncle's Brothers in Hosur, Tiruthani, Peter Uncle in Aruppukotai, Peter Uncle in Kallakurichi and still evangelists from thirulovilur, kanchipuram, tutucorin, sivagasi, thanjavur, mayiladudurai, thiruvannamalai, and still..... Who are all following the so called LEF rules, If they are following LEF rules then Are they not following God's commandments? Recently one evangelist daughter got married out of fellowship, Late JD Uncle told it seems that No one should go to the marriage of their daughter and from the family, No one went to that marriage, What God teaches us? God teaches us to Love your Enemies, If we are not able to love our own family members then how we will love the perishing souls? Think and react, In Late JD Uncle family No one loves their own family members then how they will love LEF members? Its real, What kind of Love we are showing to others? Are we really showing Christ's Love to others or we are showing hypocrisy love? Dear People in LEF dont fool the people of LEF by saying we Love you, Everywhere partiality, Everywhere misunderstanding, Everywhere conflicts between evangelists, Dear Blowers Take step on this issue and go forward, Let God alone help us and give us solution
ReplyDeleteAll the uncles ' contact details are available in the lefi website
DeleteAll these uncles and aunties are the nicest people, Who are strict and righteous Christians in office. Morally and ethically correct. Surprisingly, they all know about the stealing Daniel tribe but are not willing / not interested to stop the open loot, I don't understand why.
DeleteAll those uncles you quoted did some politics to get favour in the sight of the Big Man who died on 18th October 2014.You can analyze the life of their children carefully and see that the children are paying for the sins of omission and commission of their parents.Why should we look at people and the Church?.Let us look only at Jesus .If we are not comfortable with Church A or B there are many other churches in our place where we can find refuge.Dear Friends run away from politics,keep a safe distance from controversies.Read your Bible and follow the word of God.He will accomplish his plans in our life.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @8 :09 PM. I fully agree with your statement to look at Jesus and run our race. I find this very funny . Referring every one as aunt and uncle but at the same time u have to wait in queue to meet uncles like jd with whom u could n t have an appointment so easily or even if u have one u are so frightened to talk or discuss any thing so freely than take their words as if from God himself but still call them uncles and aunties. ....really sick ....
DeleteAnonymous nov. 3 @ 8.09pm
DeleteYes, 'looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith'. However this is not the whole story, is it? The church is the body of Christ, and there must be local churches which should be a visible expression of Him. Looking to Jesus means carrying out His instructions as to how we should both live and worship in this world.
We therefore have a responsibility to cleanse, and keep clean, His body in our locality, the local church, governed according to His biblical guidance. It is also implicit that we have a responsibility for the welfare of vulnerable seekers or believers. We must try to steer them away from false teachers, and damaging organisations which name the name of Christ, but which are nevertheless not biblically ordained, patterned, or governed local churches.
Your post looks as if you are advocating that we move from church to church whenever we dislike an aspect of that church, that it is enough to look solely to Jesus without taking on local responsibilities. However I do not think this is what you meant.
In the effort to rescue souls who are being misled and damaged by the organization known as the Laymen's Evangelical Fellowship, it is unfortunately the case that sometimes the posts get a little 'out of hand'. Perhaps a few of those who post are doing so more out of anger and hurt than out of a desire to see an end to the cultish LEF and its reprobate family of dynastic 'leaders', the Daniels. Others, through the use of sometimes rather biting humour, seek to de-throne the arrogant Daniel family members from their false ruling status in the eyes of naive supporters ( and after all, Jesus, Paul, and the Old Testament prophets used humour in this way too). However the battle to oust these people from any kind of spiritual or physical control (anywhere!) is real and necessary.
The LEF and its leadership cannot be cleansed as a real church should be, because it is not a church, and never has been. It is just an amorphous collection of adherents who blindly follow one family and its henchmen, a family which has never been ordained to lead either by God, or biblically by the expressed will of believers. Therefore you are right, in this case, to advise people to leave its control and find a real, local church in which to worship.
I am just concerned in case your well-meant post encourages people to think, simplistically, that it is right to change churches regularly for any reason, or even that it is not necessary to become a contributing (in spiritual terms) member of any local church in order to be a committed Christian. Thank you, however, for reminding readers that our ultimate allegiance and responsility is to Christ, our Saviour.
In another blog, I commented about the RCC and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I also explained a rational and somewhat theological basis why I joined the Catholic Church. I want to add to that by talking about Canon law aka Church law. It is a vast book and is the Constitution of the Church. I see many blogs about financial abuses, excessive travelling and spending by the board members being exposed in the blogs here. I also see the mistreatment of evangelists, the biased treatment of the first family, and so on and so forth. Why do such things not happen in the Catholic Church? Why has the Catholic Church sustained itself since the time of Christ's resurrection. There are 2 answers to these questions: first the theological answer which I already stated in my previous comment in the other blog(that Christ is the founder of the Catholic Church and that the Holy Spirit guides it as it's President. It was never guided by a JD or LD or JJD and so on. The rational answer is the Canon law continously revised and updated at the Vatican. The Canon law is so vast that there is not a single topic untouched as far as the clergy is concerned. All clergy have to read it, know it, understand it and follow it. Then the college of Cardinals and the Pope regularly update the Canon law, as generations pass remove deprecated laws and add relevant laws to the times. Of course, there have been scandalous priests who did not abide by the laws of the CHurch and brought shame and disrepute. I want to be very candid about this point as I know many people are going to bring this aspect of the scandals that have been so vigorously exposed by the media in the developed countries about the Catholic Church. But let me assuredly tell you and you can check Vatican sources that scandalous priests are dismissed and removed from office. The nobility of the Catholic Church is that they are helped to find other jobs and even paid remuneration all their lives, except that they are defrocked(removed from priestly duties as they were involved in scandals).
ReplyDeleteJust think about how serious these things are. It is not possible to start a church. Oh yes, we can start LEFs. Where I am getting to, is that it is not possible to run it, not possible to sustain it for a hundred years, for five hundred years, for a thousand years, for as many years until Christ comes again. Friends, do not attempt to start a church or correct it. Join the Churches that Christ started. They are there in plenty even at your doorstep. You might have come to know Christ through one of these groups. Good for you till then. But if you want communion with Christ our Savior, your family to have that constant faith and security, and if you want the joy of worshipping the Most Blessed Trinity and knowing for sure that there are Churches that Christ started, then find the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, for in it alone lies your peace and joy and love and security. Others are temporary, will fade away, cannot sustain themselves after a time. The LEF is just one such example of the hundreds of religious organizations whose scandals you are exposing.