The below email conversation between the present financial head of LEF, Caleb Daniel and the late JD will throw some light on what kind of conman late JD was...
Caleb Daniel’s email to Joshua Daniel about buying a Piano
Caleb Daniel’s email to Joshua Daniel about buying a Piano
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From: Caleb Daniel [mailto:calebdaniel78@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:35 PM
To: joshuadaniel1928@lefi.org
Subject: pianos
From: Caleb Daniel [mailto:calebdaniel78@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:35 PM
To: joshuadaniel1928@lefi.org
Subject: pianos
Dear Uncle,
Thank you for your email. I went to
Musee Musicals and enquired about the grand pianos that they have. I have been
waiting for the quotation of the pianos from them. Finally they have sent it
yesterday. There are only 4 grand pianos that they have. One is a Steinway
another is a B-Steiner (which is in Hyderabad) and the other 2 are Yamaha
pianos. None of them are 7 feet pianos in length. They are only medium sized
grand pianos. Here are the specifiations:
1. Steinway (model: S-155, Length
155cm) Rs.35,42,400/-
2. Yamaha (model: C2, length 173cm) Rs. 9,66,300/-
3. Yamaha (model: C3, length 180cm) Rs.11,66,250/-
4. B-Steiner (model SIG57D, length 168cm) Rs.
4,60,800/-
If you want a 7 feet piano then after ordering for
it, it would take about 6 months to manufacture and send it to India. Mr. Kishore said that the comparision of a Steinway with a Yamaha piano is like
comparing a Rolls-Royce with an ordinary car. Even the medium size Steinway
piano will sound way better than the Yamaha 7 feet piano. I'm sure you would
have heard about Steinway pianos. They come with a lifetime warrenty whereas
the Yamaha pianos come with only 10 years warrenty. Awaiting your instructions.
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Joshua
Daniel’s reply to Caleb Daniel
Beloved Calu, First the piano-
As you know I have been trying to
get a quality instrument for a long time.
While a 5’5’’ Steinway is a very
distant cousin of the concert model, yet I will consider it prayerfully.
Steinway of course is well known
to me, & John managed to get an old Steinway which is far from concert grand Steinway.
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Joshua
Daniel’s letter to the Piano dealer
Dear Mr. Kishore, I had asked Mr.
Caleb Daniel my nephew to go over & try out your grand pianos.
He sent me your quote for a 5’ 5”
Steinway. It is a far cry from the concert grand Steinway &
Your price seems to be very
steep.
If you would considerably cut
back on this price then I would be able to purchase it. Let me know
By return. Thank you!
Yours faithfully,
Joshua Daniel.
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Here is the picture of this 35 lakh (about USD 70,000 based on the exchange rates in 2008) piano that only the JD's oldest daughter the great pianist can play. After all for all the service the great Pianist has done to LEF, why shouldn't madamji get this toy for 35 lakhs to play when she comes to the retreats? Wait a second...was she banned from LEF pulpits recently? What happens to this toy that her dad lovingly bought for her to be used for God's glory?
We can hear some people already pronouncing curses on us for questioning the Godly decision of late JD to buy this quality Piano to be used for glory of God...
This might help understand why Late JD who paid Rs.200/-...(not 200 dollars but 200 rupees, less the USD 4) as Honorariums for LEF workers had no right to indulge in this kind of extravagance. Now his son who took over from his dad is a bigger "Thughluq."
He told the evangelist after his dad's funeral that God is not giving him guidance to pay honorariums to LEF workers. We suspect that even this Rs.200/- is also stopped now as all the LEF workers have to learn how to "exercise faith."
How do we know that LEF pays Rs. 200/- per month as honorarium to its workers? Here is a snapshot of one of the many LEF account books we have in our dossier.
How do we know that LEF pays Rs. 200/- per month as honorarium to its workers? Here is a snapshot of one of the many LEF account books we have in our dossier.
We leave it to you all to judge based on the
documentary evidence we are putting in front of you if money should be sent to HQ knowing that these rogues are squandering it. We plead with you dear friends to open your mind's eyes to see and discern all the evil this Daniel family rogues have been doing in the name of God and God's service.
How much honorarium is John paid for his invaluable selfless service?.
ReplyDeleteDoes he fly business Class or First Class when he comes to India with his big family?.Who pays for it?.Is it fair to deny salaries and offer Rs.200 as honorarium when they (Daniel Family) spend a min of Rs.2000 per day for the car fuel.
The Blogger has missed the Mercs and the top end Cars bought for the exclusive use of the JD Children and their families.
Dear LEF Friends come whistle .Whistle alone or join this whistleblowers chorus.It would be better if you get a group of whistlers in your center and question the leadership.
Dear Whistleblower,What you have exposed is not even 0.1 percent of the Tip of the Huge Iceberg..
ReplyDeleteYou have forgotten the Luxury cars bought for the exclusive use of the JD Family.
Blatant display of PK (Preacher's Kid Syndrome) by Lizard ,her sister and others in LEF .
Shameless Public display of Sibling Rivalry by the senior members of the family.
Photographs and videos of irregularities.
We are soon going to expose many more irregularities There is a silent movement that is gathering momentum.
We wish to know if we can trust you that you would post it online.If you cant we will sure do on another blog site.
We are ready to do everything possible to expose the atrocities of this rogue family. Please do not hesitate to send any proof you might have to help strengthen the case against these rogues. Do not hesitate to send us an email at savelefi@hotmail.com if there is anything that is confidential in nature that we need to discuss. We will publish all things that have reasonable proof as long as we do not jeopardize the safety of some innocent people who are still under the vice grip of these criminals. Since we have gathered a certain momentum through this blog, it might be advantageous to consolidate all our efforts and stand as one mighty force against this rogue family.
DeleteWhat are LD and Junior JD doing will all the offerings and money collected in the Sunday Worships.
ReplyDeleteWe don't give our tithes to buy expensive toys for the exclusive use of the Chief Keyboardist/Organist (A lady who could better Elizabeth Taylor in divorces and marriages).
LD gave some decent amount to the female who was assaulted/cornered by IC. This is a bribe to the female to step out of her position and get away from LEF. Long ago,the same female had given so much of lakhs to LD without any account. Why can't these fraud people go on their own when they go out why do they need drivers. Bible college students are meant for preaching not to do servant job to this useless people. My dear beloved Bible College Brothers and Sisters, Please wake up, be a servant of our Creator Lord Jesus Christ. So Jesus to others. You all are called for a duty to win souls. This useless preachers conducted meetings in some centers just to pinpoint one or two families from the Pulpit. They have not done the correct preaching or followed a method. JJD is a secular man who works in a corporate world just because if someone asks how come be gets money to fly and run family, he will defend himself saying he earns money from secular world. How come last daughter got two exorbitant apartments in America and rented it. Why didn't she give the apartments for Missionaries for FOC? Why did LD ask fatherless people to handover the land to LEF? Why can't see ask her one darling daughter to repent and handover the apartments to LEF? Their big daughter is running a Mortgage commission business and BPO company in America and she does not want to leave hat business and come to India to serve as full time servant. Has not she got the directions from got yet? Then how come she got approval from the Lord for the 3rd wedding? Why JJD is accusing Andra Brothers and Sisters? Why does the eldest daughter supporting Andra Brothers and Sisters? I observe something in between the lines. If they truly love LEF, they should have come here long time ago. When we sum of the members of all the centers other than India is not even a sum of members in a small center in Tamil Nadu or Andra. Where are we? What are they doing all these many years? I could see only one thing, just enjoying their life practicing songs and memorizing the bible verses. They do not know what is a car shed or a 10x10 room. Come to BG and see the lifestyle of True Believers. Visit small centers in AP and see the lifestyle of small and big people. LD's own sisters hate her and call her evil possessed lady. Her own daughter witnessed and posted on her FB wall many times. 25 years ago, LD was cursing families for not giving up their government jobs and come to Gods Call when her own children are not ready to give up. I am wondering, why God has brought this evil thing (IC matter) out just before late JD departs. I still don't have answer but I understand God is a good God. All things work out for Good and he brings out the thieves at the right time. In the same way, LD & family will be brought out and the punishment will be behind the bars. This is for sure. Even a thief will share some portion to others but these frauds do not want to give even a little to bible college students from what they swindled. May God Save us!!!
ReplyDeleteJohn boy If you really love to serve God leave America and the good life there come and stay in Beulah gardens with your family for a few years and them boss over us.
ReplyDeleteJJD and LD read Luke 9:23 and Matthew 16:24.You goondas cannot be sitting in America sitting on a recliner and pass orders to your cronies to satisfy your avarice for more and more money.
The Devil entered LEF few years back.I am not joking .On a Sunday Service when Dr.Samraj Samuel was preaching a Bull (Yerumai) ran into LEF HQ and raced to the Pulpit .People in the Sunday Worship were shocked.
ReplyDeleteA black bull entering the Church and racing to the Pulpit speaks a lot about the Spiritual state of that church.
When did this happen? can you give more details?
DeleteThis incident took place in 2013.A Black colored ferocious Bull entering the HQ and dashing on to the Pulpit sends out a clear message that Satan is present in LEF.
DeleteIn the year 2008 based on the conversation
DeleteWhistleblower you are rite.Bull "Physical representation of the devil" manifested itself on the LEF Headquarters in 2008 .Devil entered the Daniel family several decades back and has been unleashing havoc on the hapless LEF evangelists and worshippers.It is time to ostracize these wicked people and save the organization.
DeleteWednesday service not Sunday service
DeleteIn LEF corporate prayers people pray to display their vocabulary and to impress others. Maybe the Yerumai (Bull) came to say amen to the prayers .It is also said that some donkeys brayed loudly (Alto) and tried to enter LEF when the 5 part choir comprising grandchildren sang.Those who heared said that it was a wonderful harmony.
DeleteOh my !! Is it true?? How dare are these feinds on the stage exhibit their shamless talents in such a spectacular manner. Look some babies are writing so much in fb by giving glory to god man in shameless way.
DeleteA lot of people who come to the retreats do not know English. But still a lot of the songs sung are in English and the song leaders generally do not know any of the vernacular languages. I wonder why people come from far away to listen to English songs that they can’t understand and see Joshua Daniel’s grandchildren perform songs they can’t understand. I hope the English songs and Western speakers are not duping gullible people.
ReplyDeleteMissionaries spent countless years translating the Bible into Indian native languages. People should be able to praise God with their native language.
There are really thousands of children blessed with various talents. They are suppresed. I am not againt to the Great Grandchildren singing but other children should also be given equal rights in praising the Lord. The same is there in USA retreat too. But the saddest part in US is only JJD children to run the show. If someone asks why only English songs in May retreat that answer would be "Learn Foreign Language". But no one dare to say back to LD/Late JD to say "Teach your children and grand children Indian Language". I really go crazy when JJD stops a person who shares his/her witness and saying your time is up and dont cotinue your cooking. Whereas they have time to allow Video recording songs which no one likes to listen becuase the songs are hard to understand for a real Layman.
ReplyDeleteI was disturbed by this comment:
ReplyDeleteLD gave some decent amount to the female who was assaulted/cornered by IC. This is a bribe to the female to step out of her position and get away from LEF. Long ago,the same female had given so much of lakhs to LD without any account
Who is this female to get and give lakhs, it is plain stolen money , Thief encourages another thief
You are bothered about one Piano, In a neighbouring state capital a family has 3-4 pianos, plus a recording studio built on the top floor, Honey where was the money, God gives and gives, man forgets, HE, HE,
ReplyDeletebut the lazy bum Caleb didn't even know that The authorised Piano Distributors were another company, What was the Kickback and to whom, Somebody also write on the luxury vehicles bought, The JJD clan now will do another favourite trick, they will not record the Piano in the Register of Assets and so they will sell it off for Rs.35 lakhs to Caleb, LEF movies, The money which will directly go to the pockets
after buying the Steinway C3 grand piano, it was played only by JD's daughter Betty. Even Mrs. Rita Jayanth, who was heading the choir in the LEF HQ for many years, was not even allowed to use it. A year ago, IC dismantled the choir itself. The missionaries of yester years brought pianos, organs to india and taught the church how to sing and play. Our LEF leader JD bought grand pianos from the offering money of so many poor people and enriched his family entertainment show in the name of God. Funny leaders and who are still idolized by funny crowd.
ReplyDeleteMrs.Rita Jayanth daughter of Dr.Jayasingh (who spent most of his life serving LEF and donated most of his wealth to LEF )was asked not to use the Expensive Piano.John Daniel apparently told her that the Piano is exclusively for the use of Lizard Vampire and Calu.
DeleteRogue Family we give offerings ,you guys eat and freak out.Finally you are abusing Indians.Dont you feel ashamed.
Unbelievable! A 35-lakh piano that only the semi-talented Liz van Camp and Caleb Daniel can play.
ReplyDeleteIs this an "alabaster jar of perfume" to the Lord, or an obscene, devil-inspired waste of money?
Even foreigners coming to HQ had to save or borrow money to attend services at HQ. What would Mrs N. Daniel, Betty Lou Mills and other people have said about this false act of worship?