While some want to believe that we have lost steam with chasing LEF rogues, the truth is far from this. There are several things that are working in parallel to have the rogues booked. The first anniversary of JD will also mark an important milestone for LEF folks. While JD managed to run from the law quite valiantly, we should say that his successor (his beloved son) is not so lucky to run from the government. For starters, JJD will be appearing for an inquiry in Chennai when he comes to mourn/celebrate/remember the death of his father. As it is their wont, LD, JJD and LLD sent their stooges Gunalan, John Raja and Daniel Mani to face the music with the government officials a couple of weeks ago upon receiving a letter of inquiry into LEF accounts, finances, operation etc. The government officials refused to entertain these jokers and asked for the No.1 of LEF to show up for inquiry. So, the No.1 (who is none other than JJD, the circus troupe leader) will be facing the music first hand. In reality, LD has to face the music. But as she is a woman and that too a senior citizen, on compassionate grounds (which she clearly doesn't deserve) the government officials may not have required her to show up for the inquiry. However LD can volunteer herself and go for the inquiry and tell them that she is "THE WOMAN" behind all these "GOOD FOR NOTHING MEN." Also, LD can take her all powerful friend, philosopher and guide, the one and only IC with her.
Thousands are awaiting for this moment to happen to save thousands of soles who are still blindly believing, and in LEF.
ReplyDeleteLet it telecasted in international news channels.
Also, let JJD explain to the officials why his father went after money. Once late JD flew to some country to bag millions of dollars and later he found himself fooled and lost lot of money to get out from the trap. He was caught by the external fraudsters. Will he say also tell the officials that he took this position after he was retrenched from he previous job?
ReplyDeletekudos dear whistleblowers. great work. Let the ghamand (pride in english) of these foxes be broken and these creepy creatures (sorry evengelists) in the centers who are tigers to the congregation and chuha (mouse in english) to the LD & JJD be crushed and a real revival in LEF be seen. thanks to you. Please be carefulm these people may harm you. Also please act swiftly so that they cannot manage to get away.
ReplyDeleteDear Blowers, Be Fast and do wisely, we are all waiting for that moment, let real revival comes Let God interfere in this matter, We as believers of Christ, We should try to save the people from the hands of these crooked people, Still believers in LEF are following blindly, What shall we do for them? Is there any other solution to save this people? LEF was totally destroyed by IC and his troops, Let GOD save this Fellowship, Dear Blowers Be Fast and do Silently, We are the supporters of Blowers to help you, encourage you and fight for you till we get justice to the people of Fellowship
ReplyDeleteDear JJD. What a sad mess of the LEF your family has made it into. Be warned if you come to India and appear before the Authorities, definitely you will be arrested and locked up. You will have to wear prison uniform, and eat gruel and live in non A/C comfort, your 5 children, wife and mum will be devastated, while your elder sister will be delighted (and claim that God had already told her) and offer her willingness to serve and steal the propel of India.
ReplyDeleteI heard that you told your closest advisor. “I am an American Citizen, I am a Green Card Holder, no puny Indian Policeman or Authority will dare to touch me, the great might of the US is behind me”, Please come out of your hallucinations, the police will arrest you for intent to cause fraud while in India, At the maximum, the US consulate will send a low level officer , who will be told by the local authorities that you are a dirty criminal and they will no more bother, but the news will be sent to USA and your citizenship may even be revoked.
God in his mercy gave you one whole year to set right things, you never bothered and was worse than your dad, but God is not a dead stone, He watches and takes action.
Could the citizenship of a person born in the US be revoked for any reason? Just curious!
DeleteNo. It cannot be. What can be done is a person's entry to India can be banned which may be what will serve the poor LEF followers the best. If the chief clown JJD can be banned from entering India, this rogue family's influence on poor believers will be minimized.
DeleteI made a mistake, the citizenship of a person born in the US can not be normally revoked for any simple reason. I was of the opinion that JJD was a naturalized citizen. I am wrong (JD and LD had planned well, bravo). but extradition is a possibility as the creative accounting was done in India
DeleteWhy send Gunalan, John Raja and Maneybag Daniel Money to meet the authorities, to bribe left and right, what is the legal status of these 3 worthies, how do they represent the LEF. Gunalan, John Raja and Maneybag Daniel Money has been in power for 20-30 years, how can these things be tolerated, definitely such things will develop nepotism and cronyism. Why not ask Callu baby, the rising power star prophet (who preached in a Birthday party, where the child and mother were missing)? the great power of Legal Authority Holder for JJD, grandson of the great Daniel to meet the authorities. Very happy the authorities refused to meet them. When JJD goes to jail all these crooks will steal whatever thy can
ReplyDeleteDid you see the Photoshop swami (god man) picture of JD in the latest issue of Christ is Victor, 3 pictures have been cut in an unprofessional manner to show a much younger looking old man? Is the work of Jesus an advertisement business where you need such gimmicks?
ReplyDeleteLD is not old nor feeble to prevent her from handling and stealing LEF money. Nor in muddling in the LEF. Let the LEF retire its aged old people above 75.
present issues of Christ is Victor carry the line “Published. Printed Edited and Owned by Dr.(Mrs). Lily Margaret Daniel.”, As this is a privately owned periodical, why is it printed in the LEF Christian printers free and Slave labor of LEF trainees used. Why is the LEF sacrificial offering money used to support a privately owned magazine???. Let LD use her own honestly earned money to print and start in a different office and pay for the workers, LD also claims to the the Editor of Christ is victor, “What are her qualifications to be an Editor (apart from the fact that she is an ancient MBBS). This Editor has been made into a paying job and the LEF pays LD for that, multiple ways to make money. Is there no other person in the LEF to do this editor work? Shame on her for using ghost writers like John Raja and others… Please Foreigners who attend her retreats in USA ask the great old lady. She won’t reply to Indians
JJD see the situation, while you would be away all the money would be stolen by your henchmen, just grin and bear it.
ReplyDeleteJJD may use his old tricks (originally used by his fat sister), He will cone to Nepal by flight and enter into Calcutta by car, come to Madras by Air, He will even use tickets booked in others names, Similarly He will go by car to Bangalore / Madras and go by Air to Calcutta and then to Nepal. If the Indian authorities leave him, he will not return to India (enough has been already stolen and stored abroad). Let the Indian authorities seize his passport and keep him in India under strict surveillance. Call the authorities and inform them as soon as you see JJD in Madras
ReplyDeleteWhat was the need or necessity for JD and JJD to go for a revival meeting of all places in Chanel islands, (hope millions were touched and billions were saved, Not people but money in US$) which is well known for its off shore banks, Offshore banking has often been associated with the underground economy and organized crime via tax evasion and money laundering; Isn’t it true that he was cheated by the bankers who just vanished with a lot of JD illegal loot (from LEF sacrificial offerings). I came to know that when JD and JJD went they were threatened and even had to pay more to buy silence. And this was a main cause of the decline in JD’s health. Will JJD and LD at least now accept and tell the truth
ReplyDeleteLet the authorities probe the wealth of IC, (Threaten him that his pension would be cut off), John raja, Gunalam, Damodar, Timothy Sathyam, Daniel Mani, etc
ReplyDeleteLet them also search in Wood Cote bungalow, Nilgris, Beulah Gardens, Red Hills, Madras, LEF HQ, Nungambakkam High Road, LEF centers in Bangalore, Hyderabad, Coimbatore, New Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, Various Schools of LEF, One Hundred Trucks will not be enough to cart out the money and documents
Some of the information given above seems to come from the Indian 'Christ is Victor', which does not seem to be available on line (as is the US/UK version, which contains no 'news' at all, but is merely a re-hash of the 'wisdom' of Joshua Daniel and his father, plus a few simple anecdotes poached from other publications and allegedly selected by Junior JD - hence their 'simple' nature!).
ReplyDeleteIs there some way of reproducing the Indian CiV here, or at least the relevant parts, with translation into English if necessary? There are naive people in the UK and Ireland who have been enslaved to the Daniels for decades. Some may have access to the Indian version. Even if they have been forbidden by the Danieks to read Whistleblower material, it may be that their now adult children will do so. The key to destroying this now cultish, wicked organisation surely lies with the younger generation. Direct quotes from source material might help convince.
It is certainly worrying that members of the Daniel clan have visited the British Channel Islands under the guise of 'revival meetings'. As the informer states above, Jersey in particular is known to be a tax haven, and a place where people can accrue money in off-shore banks with little fear of intrusion.
ReplyDeleteIn 2009 the British Charity Commission accounts revealed that approximately £200,000 of the Brixton centre's alleged income was unaccounted for. It has been alleged (via the Understand the Truth - Suniemi blog site) that money was being sent to the Daniels through hawala means, using the London (Brixton) centre/bookshop, which is run by Germans who are completely bamboozled by the false 'spirituality' of the Daniels. These loyal, but totally misguided, servants of JD would never look into LEF's finances, but would simply do what the Daniels directed them to (the alternative is to believe that they, too, are crooks, but the tearful tribute given by their leader at JD's memorial service, together with personal experience of them, suggests that they are merely in emotional thrall to the whole LEF machine, as are many other well-meaning, but spiritually simple folk).
It is important that Indian officials look into LEF's and the Daniels' financial affairs as quickly and thoroughly as possible. It may be that the London centre is no longer a viable hawala destination. I hope that officials are now reading this and the Suniemi blogs. Any delay will make what is the possibility of the Daniels being able to squirrel away the offerings of often poor, brainwashed Indians (and others) into a British off-shore bank become a probability.
The ordinary people in LEF cannot even comprehend the wickedness of LD. As the probing into LEF affairs is taking serious turns, LD is running around some high profile people in Delhi to block the investigation. It is gathered from reliable sources that LD made a secret trip to Delhi few weeks ago to reach out to Sonia Gandhi to seek her help. It is too bad that Sonia Gandhi is not having the best of times in her political career to extend "Christian" help to this poor old widow and her fatherless children who are now being targeted by the present government. This wicked old woman wants to project to the world that she is a defenseless victim after ruining the lives of thousands of people in the name of God. Slowly but surely government is closing in on LEF to get to the bottom of LEF's illegal operations not only in TN but also all over India. It is not always easy to book criminals who hide behind religion to carry out their wickedness. But there are some fearless people out there who have the conviction to work with single minded devotion to go after these evil people in LEF.
ReplyDeleteYesterday JJD preached, was he not called by the officials yet?
DeleteReligion / Politics is the last resort for the scoundrel, It is a correct is statement.
DeleteSG and LLD have so many things in common,
1.Both SG and LLD never worked a single day but enjoyed a full five star deluxe lifestyle, enjoyed life with power without responsibilities
2. Both SG and LLD stitched on their father- in laws’ name in preference to their husband’s names. Gandhi (originally it was Ghandy, Vs Rajiv, / Daniel Vs Joshua)
3. Both SG and LLD have a useless son (sons) who are always cranky but have delusions of grandeur and kingship
(RRG and JJD)
4. Both SG and LLD come from a decaying dynasty of old families
(Gandhi’s and Daniels)
5.Both SG and LLD have ambitious daughters (Lizard Vs PG and unruly sons-in-law (Vadra vs uncounted numbers)
6. Both SG and LLD have abounding fraud to hide.
7. Both SG and LLD are a shame on the name of Jesus
8. This is not the first time, JD buttered then Tamil Nadu governor P.C. Alexander to regularize the illegally constructed LEF HQ building.
9. Both SG and LD are astonishing actors, SG refused to accept the PM ship of India but cleverly put Dr.M.Singh who was at her beck and call, LD does the same to Dr..JD of Coimbatore.
10. Both of you SG and LLD on meeting each other should ask "who is the worst crook and fraud between us".
But LLD is plain stupid to ask SG help. It is one old rat asking another old rat for forming an agitation against an army of cats hating rats.
Ok but what is the deal, how much was paid, no politician will help free.
Old poor women walk and save and give to the LEF to build Gods work. The leaders will fly and waste it for their personal gain. All good people will close their eyes and sing a song of happiness. But the God of Israel does not sleep. At least now open your eyes faithful LEF goers and givers.
LLD why the secret trips, such activities will harden the attitude of the authorities, Next time you say you are a poor old lonely widow, they will all laugh. May be your advisers are advising you, so that you and family will flee leaving the LEF to their care! Don’t blindly trust your advisers.
Our Lord said, if a blind man will lead another blind man both will fall into the pit, similarly SG will be embraced in a death embrace by LLD and both will sink.
LD now it is too late, even 2 years ago you could have escaped, This song is appropriate
“Almost persuaded,” doom comes at last!
“Almost” cannot avail;
“Almost” is but to fail!
Sad, sad, that bitter wail—
“Almost,” but lost!
I heard that in Hyderabad, the offering is counted by a committee and the amount is all submitted (siphoned) to LEF HQ Madras, and that Ganakalanchi is not a member of this A team. So he has been reduced to a performer who cannot share in the profits. I made some inquiries in the HQ, seems all this is to fool the authorities that perfect accounts are being maintained and by and by such a system would be introduced in all centers. I have a question, why only against Hyderabad, why not against Bangalroe where 99 % is unaccounted, nor Bombay nor Calcutta, nor Coimbatore nor Ooty, Will JJD and LD have the guts to start such a system in Places where the Daniel Tribe rules like in Bangalore, Poor Ganakalanchi, just because he is not a Daniel he is being humiliated. I would advise him to resign and move out. (People from Hyderabad please report)
DeleteSecondly while Hyderabad offerings would be collected and sent to HQ, but will LD and JJD give accounts for this money collected, Why accounts only for Ganakalanchi and not for others. What a bunch of frauds and robbers who have different sets of rules for themselves has the LEF became into.
Excellent analysis, Ananymous October 20, 2015 12:35 AM. Just one correction to 9. "Both SG and LD are astonishing actors, SG refused to accept the PM ship of India but cleverly put Dr.M.Singh who was at her beck and call, LD does the same to Dr..JD of Coimbatore."
DeleteSG did not refuse to become a PM. A very smart Harvard professor who is now in the BJP government stalled it at the last minute by using the reciprocity rule. If an Indian who becomes a naturalized Italian citizen cannot become a PM in Italy, then by the reciprocity rule an Italian who has become naturalized Indian citizen cannot also become the PM of India(even though Indian law allows a naturalized citizen cannot become a PM of India).
Incidentally the same professor is the one who is now chasing SG and her allies. Now LD in her foolishness established that LEF rogues are allies of SG and her corrupt party. So, now LEF rogues have gone from the frying pan straight into the fire because of this stupid move of LD to go and meet SG. The fool and his/her money are soon parted. Sorry, it really is not LD's money. This shameless family of unemployed morons has the insatiable greed to eat the money the poor people sacrificially give to God.
Here is a link to the you tube video that explains why SG could not become PM of India. In due course of time, we are hopeful that we will also find the law that bans the American born JJD from becoming the head of an Indian non-profit society.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GyT9dqHxLk
What about sharing the misdeeds of lef with tehelka , ndtv, cnn ibn etc to have more impact for a legal action ....
DeleteIs it true ?
ReplyDeleteAny latest updates on board meeting? Please keep posting the latest updates.
ReplyDeleteHeard everyone have signed on something on 17 I mean the board members.
Please everybody, do all that is possible to get a copy of this Board meeting agenda and resolutions and post here , why hide, Let us be all transparent
DeleteI doubt that LEF has formal board meetings with formal agendae, formal resolutions, and formal minutes. Didn't Joshua Daniel despise any form of committee or resultant accountability, disguising this disinclination with spiritual clap-trap and characteristically slick comments, but in reality knowing that formal committee meetings, and the minutes thereof, would force him to be accountable?
DeleteThis can work both ways, however. A secular investigation will not pay attention to Joshua Daniel's mealy-mouthed, 'spiritualised', justifications for not wishing to be accountable to others, but will require concrete proofs of amounts of money collected, concrete evidence of how it was spent, and probably concrete (not 'airy-fairy') reasons for his refusal to run LEF, which is essentially a family 'business', in accordance with the relevant legislation.
Real Board meetings (which, incidentally, would require the election of a real Board!), producing real minutes, might have helped John Daniel (not the brightest star in the Daniel firmament....) to provide some kind of acceptable response for the authorities who are investigating him. As it is, it seems that his Mummy is reduced to running hither and thither, pleading, probably with bag of LEF donated offerings in hand, with anyone who might be persuaded thereby to try to halt any investigation.
It is a shame that genuine Christians even have to read about the skullduggery of hirelings, but read they must, and act they must against it, just as the early church was commanded to do by both Jesus and the writers of the New Testament epistles. Being passive and simply praying is not an option, despite what those who continue to support the LEF's activities will tell you. It is shameful that a fellowship group which claims to be Christian either cannot, or refuses to, put its own house in order, so that secular authorities have step in and eradicate the rot.
Man proposes.. God disposes….
ReplyDeleteJD with all his own intelligence thought that JJD can rule, but there are questions now and I am sure these questions will soon lead to destruction.
Having known all these, none of JD’s futuristic plans seem to be successful. I would like to highlight a point here. The happiness & the presence of God that we all had when we were under the hut and worshipping the almighty is all gone when we have high raised roof and buildings.
Questions to ponder:
• JJD was a very thick friend of IC. Why?
• JJD is living in a bungalow whereas poor evangelist live in a hut. Who is a true evangelist here?
• JJD is driving/driven by a poor drivers in a luxury car whereas our poor evangelist go walking miles. Why?
• JJD has not attended a bible college recommended by LEF. Why? Whom to trust. LEF bible college students and unknown Bible college student?
Who is preaching and practicing? India wake up. My brothers and sisters please think!! Don’t be fooled!!!
Preach what you can practice otherwise be a normal man and don’t call yourself a powerful preacher!!!
Shame on you guys who live on others hard earned money!!! Don’t your inner sense prick you!! Why are you still passing curse to your own children and grandchildren!! Get away!!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/singapore-pastor-kong-hee-guilty-church-funds-wife-music
ReplyDeleteThis man, Kong He, has a Facebook account. Despite his having been found guilty in court of embezzling millions of pounds of his mega-church congregation's tithes and offerings, along with his church henchmen, his admirers are still posting sympathetic messages to him, assuring him that Jesus is with him and will make everything alright etc.
DeleteAnother example of 'there are none so blind as those who will not see', and how the cult of personality can take precedence over Biblical teaching and morality in the thinking of naive, emotionally vulnerable followers.
Isn't this what happens in LEF? Whose disciple are you, the Daniel family's, or Jesus's? You cannot be both.
......and, interestingly, whoever runs this man's, Kong Hee's, Facebook page blocks all who draw attention to his very recent conviction for fraud under the open comments facility.
DeleteBetty Daniel does exactly the same when those who read her Facebook ramblings confront her with realities. Lily Daniel closed her Facebook account when attention was drawn to her post, previously reproduced here, which announced that she had recently acquired a lot of 'swag' i.e. Illegal material wealth (having opened a Facebook account despite her husband forbidding others to do this).
These people who seek to encourage personality cults centred on themselves and their families in the name of Christ are all the same under the skin. They have no reasoned answers to valid criticism, so they attempt to silence it.
Talk about Luck / Coincidence
ReplyDeleteBJP targets Sonia and Rahul Gandhi, alleges they were involved in black money transactions
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Black-money-charges-BJP-targets-Sonia-Rahul-Gandhi/articleshow/49495221.cms,
Birds of the same feather flock together, How true, Who taught whom such behavior, Cheers JJD and LD LLD etc (what a day dream that SG will save LD and JJD)