Thursday, April 23, 2015

IS LEF A CULT?

Here is a a link to an excerpt from a book called Christian Gurus which published in another blog that is exposing theological fallacies of LEF. 


Dear readers, read the above blog post in its entirety to understand how LEF from its inception was meant to satisfy the egoistic narcissism of Joshua Daniel. 
Please feel free to leave your comments and inputs. 

19 comments:

  1. LEF is not just a cult .It is the cash cow of the Daniel Family.All of them financially profited of this Private Family Business.

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  2. JD and his family were the biggest looters of LEF.The other children of Daniel barring Mrs Kamala and Bro Whitson ate out of our tithes and offerings.JD was a crook who used his rhetoric and mesmerising skills to install fear on people. Now JD's son John is messing around.It is a matter of time John will be preaching to empty LEF halls.

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    1. Dear Anonymous April 23, 2015 9:54 AM, is there any proof that Mrs. Kamala and Bro . Whitson ate your tithes and offerings? if yes Can you please write here some of them?

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    2. Bro.Witson and Sister Kamala are victims of LD and JJD. You have no idea what they are going through, LD and JJD have no respect for them. They plotted to send them out but manged to keep them as dummies. Bro. Witson and Sister Kamal are staying there because it ill bring out lot of problems from the congregation for these culprits . Probably LD and letting them to stay because they are old and soon they dont have to deal with them. That is how some of her followers deal with people. They let people die without setting spiritual things right. LD amd Bro Witson a puppet a Godly man who gave everything to LEF for its success and LD and Co are enjoying the fruit . Bro Witson and his wife do not looot like LD. Dont compare them with the LD who thrive using the problems of people

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    3. Mrs. Kamala Paul taught a very legalistic religion. I wonder if you know that many decades ago, she twisted Psalm 45:10 and encouraged young ladies to leave their parent’s houses and stay in LEF hostels. Thankfully this was stopped (by Joshua Daniel). She kept separating people from family members even after that. Legalistic religion is worse than stealing money. I wonder what would have happened if she had more freedom in LEF. It might have turned into a real cult with everyone living in a commune. Church is not a place for family members to get & retain plum positions for life.

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    4. Suniemi, thanks for mentioning this twisted logic of Kamala Paul in removing girls from the their families to come and stay in LEF hostels. The trauma and the pain that this separation caused both to the girls and their families and the long-term ill effects of this practice are worth paying attention to. Following the lives of some of these girls (who are now grown up women) who were lured into "LEF hostels" will open up cupboards that are filled skeletons.

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    5. Thanks suniemi, Whistleblower for your observations regarding Mrs Kamala Paul. I wonder how LEF members accept all that is done by her and still want her to have more freedom in LEF. I have read many such comments supporting her / pleading for for more role in LEF in social media. That shows what kind of discernment the people have with respect to spiritual matters. The leaders in LEF seem to thrive on the ignorance of the people

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    6. LD is the worst. LD forces others to leave USA. But favors for money even if they don't obey. promotes abuse and covers up for them. So far no single soul she won for the LORD but by hook or crook she wants souls to obey her commands. People seek God to get freedom from all the troubles of the world. But these culprits inflict all the problems of the world on innocent trusting people. LD GOD does not hurt people, not manipulate ,abuse or take advantage. He gives the full freedom to choose . Gods people love each other. Your followers betray each other and stab from behind. All these are your teaching. But God says from where they get these kind of teachings 1 Thimothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
      You choose whatever you want and live as you like but do not ruin families for your comfort

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  3. The Ulrike Papst referred in the linked site SUNEMi is no more associated with the LEF.Few years back the German LEF broke away from JD and asked him not to come to Germany to Preach.They realised that JD was a crook.The German LEF believers presented Joe a Volkswagen Van and 2 Mercedes Cars in the 70's.JD paid it back by getting 2 of his sons marry German Girls from the LEF.But his game plan did not work with Germans and they showed him the door.

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  4. Good to lead a balanced review of JD & LEF .Every LEF Evangelist and member must read this expose.

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  5. To know more about the author of this book (Dr.Werner) please visit http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Hoerschelmann&prev=search

    Dr.Werner lives in Duisburg,Germany very close to the place where JD's niece lives.

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  6. The story of the German LEF is more complicated than has been written. I know that they were inspired to leave because of the LEF collapse in Canada and several people leaving the LEF in the USA (this was in 1996). Also, the writing was on the wall that JJD was going to take over the LEF and the Germans couldn't stand this. They made it clear to JD that they didn't want this. I'm not sure who dumped after this. Most of the Germans broke away, but JD still had a small handful of followers. The web-site and visits suggest that there is still a German ministry, but let's clear, it is a pale shadow of what JD used to visit.

    Speaking of the three JD boys, two of them married German girls and one married a girl from Liechtenstein (next to Germany). Something most people probably don't know is that JJD was originally engaged to a different German LEF girl than the woman he married. It seems that this girl did not see eye-to-eye with him on everything, so the Daniel's dumped her. I understand that her and her whole family left the LEF at that point.

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  7. Thanks for throwing light on the German issue. I would say God has been very gracious to the girl who did not see eye-to-eye with JJD and hence was dumped by this rogue family. It is pure grace of God that has spared her form getting stuck with this family.I have heard from reliable sources that JJD's wife and his girls are arrogant and stuck up. JJD's wife has bought quite well into the deception of this family. In fact, she herself boasts of being a "MISSIONARY TO INDIA." LEF people should give a report on what kind of missionary work this woman has been doing in India. I wonder why this "MISSIONARY TO INDIA" is not allowed to preach on May retreat pulpits? In some sense she may be better qualified than her ignominious sisters -in-law (the one who is to alleged to have had live-in relationships without ever being formerly married and the other who had walked to marriage altar more than once). LEF folks, please get ready to hear messages from JJD's wife soon...who knows the next line could be JJD's daughters? After all, doesn't this family have the sole proprietorship to any and all LEF stages?

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    1. In the LEF self delusion is always present, a small 12 member meeting will be held in Brixton and will be called as British Retreat, similar is the case of German, Australian, Singapore retreats, I have seen the Students retreat become All India then All Asia then International, soon it will be Global then InterUniversal. Let little bo peep call her Missionary to India, let she call herself Missionary to Asia then Asia Pacific World etc. All know her qualifications and ability.If a person wants to fool herself and others then why should I bother

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  8. Theodiacy to monarchy ...yahweh leadership to Saul leadership

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  9. Who are Mrs& Mr Kamala Paul. Members of the Daniel Family. The rift between them is nothing but family feud. That takes place everywhere where there is money and power. We have still deeper problems in LEF which affects every body. As said by one commenter so many young girls ( now women ) were misguided and made to separate themselves from their families. What a lot of pain the families must have gone through.... Still to day there is oppression in LEF . so many rules and regulations .... Great burden being laid on poor believers who just come to hear the word of God to get comforts. I think these problems should be in our minds foremost and not the rift between the members of the first family.

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  10. Please read the blog LEF understand the truth suneimi wordpress. An eye opener to the extravagant life like a corporate head lead by JD ...... A/C Office room for 42 year old head of LEF as early as 1972 when most of the followers would not have eexperienced the comforts of air conditioning. The situation does not change even now.. Oh waht a gap between the leader and the followers. Just view one of the messages of May retreat in BG in the archives of the website,the crowd fanning all the time with whatever is in their hands and the proud leader so comfortably enjoying all comfort of portable A/C all at the cost of the poor and lower middle class peoples s money. Even the HQ is not planned or built taking into considertation the convenience of the audience . The audience are treated like cattle.

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  11. The LEF is a dirty dangerous evil mind bending / mind changinbg cult. The language spoken will be so similar to a mainstream church but the meaning would be different (Dictionary is different). LEF is accountable to none, neither God nor man. Keep away from it. You have been warned. Be aware and Beware

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  12. Dear Anonymous April 25, 2015 4:09 AM, you are the cash cow of the LEF rouge family, no wonder you are treated as cattle. When you ask a butcher rather than a shepherd to take care of the sheep this only will happen.

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