There was a lot of talk among LEF board members and also among Joshua Daniel's family circles that Joshua Daniel did not want to make John Daniel the whole and sole of LEF. We've heard that Joshua Daniel refused to sign a letter appointing John Daniel as the next LEF head even though he was threatened and coerced into doing so during his last days. Apparently Lily Daniel along with Gunalan, Immanuel Chakravarthy and others put a lot of pressure on Joshua Daniel to sign the document appointing John Daniel as the head which looks like Joshua Daniel never signed. In fact, it is widely believed that the board members at the time (May, 2014) got to see the copy of the letter that Lily Daniel wanted Joshua Daniel to sign appointing John Daniel as the next head and were furious that Lily Daniel was working against the wish and desire of Joshua Daniel. Please bear in mind that LEF folks' loyalties were always towards Joshua Daniel and not Lily Daniel and her incompetent and foolish son John Daniel.
Here is a legal document along with the comments of the blogger which will enable our readers to see the dark secrets of Daniel family which show how they don't spare each other in backstabbing:
Now the million dollar question is why didn't Lily Daniel forge the signature of Joshua Daniel like she and her stooges have done on thousands of documents?
The answer to this question reveals the psyche of Lily Daniel.
Remember that people who cheat and manipulate think that the whole world is like them and do not trust their own shadows. That's exactly what Lily Daniel and her stooges are. Joshua Daniel's other children and more importantly Joshua Daniel's family slave Gunalan knew that Joshua Daniel died without signing this letter. If one person other than Lily Daniel and John Daniel knew that Joshua Daniel's signature was forged, they know very well that this person will have ammunition to blackmail them and extract his/her pound of flesh. Lily Daniel is once bitten and twice shy. She already has enough trouble with Immanuel Chakravarthy putting the gun to their heads and threatening them that he will send them to jail. Obviously since Gunalan for sure and may be few others knew that Joshua Daniel stood his ground till his death and did not sign this letter, forging Joshua Daniel's signature was out of question.
This is one of the rare pictures of Joshua Daniel on his death bed. Please imagine what kind of monster Lily Daniel is to harass a man who was in this condition to sign the above document and in some sense I commend Joshua Daniel for not succumbing to the pressure. Oh well, wasn't it a little too late for him to fight his draconian wife?
Who said people have to die to experience hell? People like Joshua Daniel are examples of those who are said to have had "living hell." Death which is the final and most important act of life should be as pleasant if not more pleasant than all the other acts of life. How could a man like Joshua Daniel who did not live well die well? Lily Daniel, you are next in line. We are all watching to see how miserable your end will be!!!
Here is a legal document along with the comments of the blogger which will enable our readers to see the dark secrets of Daniel family which show how they don't spare each other in backstabbing:
The answer to this question reveals the psyche of Lily Daniel.
Remember that people who cheat and manipulate think that the whole world is like them and do not trust their own shadows. That's exactly what Lily Daniel and her stooges are. Joshua Daniel's other children and more importantly Joshua Daniel's family slave Gunalan knew that Joshua Daniel died without signing this letter. If one person other than Lily Daniel and John Daniel knew that Joshua Daniel's signature was forged, they know very well that this person will have ammunition to blackmail them and extract his/her pound of flesh. Lily Daniel is once bitten and twice shy. She already has enough trouble with Immanuel Chakravarthy putting the gun to their heads and threatening them that he will send them to jail. Obviously since Gunalan for sure and may be few others knew that Joshua Daniel stood his ground till his death and did not sign this letter, forging Joshua Daniel's signature was out of question.
This is one of the rare pictures of Joshua Daniel on his death bed. Please imagine what kind of monster Lily Daniel is to harass a man who was in this condition to sign the above document and in some sense I commend Joshua Daniel for not succumbing to the pressure. Oh well, wasn't it a little too late for him to fight his draconian wife?Who said people have to die to experience hell? People like Joshua Daniel are examples of those who are said to have had "living hell." Death which is the final and most important act of life should be as pleasant if not more pleasant than all the other acts of life. How could a man like Joshua Daniel who did not live well die well? Lily Daniel, you are next in line. We are all watching to see how miserable your end will be!!!
There is lot of foul play in LEF. There is another family who works very close to LD has ery dark secrets. There is plenty of proofs. This coruupt family is working side by side with LD fir their gain following the same style for decades. Same way they have cheated Giods children, family, work place, government, even churches. But make evrybody think they are doing big ministry. Abomination.
ReplyDeleteThis is the reason IC challenged LD to take her to Jail. There is no smoke without fire.. End of LEF is approaching. End of LD's dirty politics will soon come to an End. The top guys at LEF will take all the money and run away. The poor evangelist will continue to serve God faithfully. The road is not so long, Soon government will take over BG and LEF HQ. otherwise.. LEF leaders will exchange them into good money.. I feel this May retreat will be the last retreat to see your friends at LEF. JD family, this will be your last trip to India. You are cornered from all directions. I see centers/sub centers have started their own way of controls & process. LEF HQ has started loosing their strength on centers/subcenters. IC has started his revenge. IC will soon publish documents. There is already negotiations started. LEF was started for God's glory but they glory is ruined by Lily & co. Time to combat!!!
ReplyDeleteWhy does the letter say 'Last of all' at the beginning of the second paragraph, and why is the figure :4: beneath the heading address?
ReplyDeleteIs this not the last page of a four page document? What else did this letter say on the previous 3 pages? Whatever it was, it seems to have caused the writer to make the very sinister comment about 'careless tongues' and 'slander'.
Why the reference to 'gold and silver'? Is this merely another Bible reference thrown in to give a 'Christian' flavour to what are essentially the manipulations involved in a cut-throat business; or does it have some connection with what was written on previous pages; or to broader accusations that were being made about monetary dishonesties or irregularities?
The machinations of the Laymen's Evangelical Fellowship shown here are reminiscent of those of a Mafia group, with 'Don Joshua' at its head, and 'Baby Don John' waiting in the wings. Lily Daniel is the (out of time) 'Lucretia Borgia' of the outfit. Does the Daniel family have any Sicilian blood in its ancestry, I wonder?
None of this is really funny, though. Surely those who stubbornly continue to support the Daniels and LEF must now see the evil that is present? You must separate yourselves from it, if you really are a Christian, and you put the Lord first in your life. 'A little leaven leavens the whole lump'. You cannot sit on the fence. You cannot say, 'Oh, but our centre is different, our 'evangelist' is an honest man'. Leaven is no respecter of the individual grains of flour in the mix.
Please read the epistle of Jude, and in particular verses 4 - 23. '.......Having men's persons in admiration because of advantage' (v.16), '....they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward' (v.11), 'These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit' (v.19). Does this not make you think of the Daniels and their henchmen? Was not the infiltration into the Body of Christ by such people prophesied? 'And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, to exercise judgement upon all, AND TO CONVINCE (convict) ALL THAT ARE UNGODLY AMONG THEM OF ALL THEIR UNGODLY DEEDS WHICH THEY HAVE UNGODLY COMMITTED' (v.15).
Every person with some connection to LEF must choose today whom they will serve, God or Satan. There is no middle path between the two.
As far as i know, this was not the signature of Joshua Daniel, As I know he never signed like this, You can see the original real signature of JD in the letter dictated to bro.Simon an evangelist, in these blog pages
ReplyDeleteThis is very shocking.LEF is no doubt a Den of Thieves .
ReplyDeleteJohn should not have signed that letter authored by his dad during the Retreat 2014 which was read by Dr.Samraj in the retreat and later published in the Christ is Victor.Although JD gave the power of attorney to John Daniel he did not take control toll his dad died.John Was not in India on the day this letter was supposedly signed 20 Oct.In the months preceding JD;s death John was not to be seen in India.
John did not visit his dad who was in his deathbed.James Daniel visited him thrice.
LEF is doomed if it is lead by John.
If someone wants to get to the bottom of it, all they need to do is complain to the police that they suspect a foul play in connection with the circumstances involving Joshua Daniel's death. Law will take its course and eventually all the truth will come out.
DeleteIt is not difficult to establish that John Daniel was not present in India on Oct 20th, said date on the document. All one needs is the entry in his passport that confirms that he was in India on that date.
If he was not in India, then how did he manage to sign this document? Two possible explanations are:
1. This page was signed and kept to be used as soon as Joshua Daniel died.
2. Someone else forged John Daniel's signature.
If the no.1 is true, then the ominous question about foul play in Joshua Daniel's death needs to be looked at.
If no.2 is true, then another scary question needs to be answered. Why was Lily Daniel so desperate? Why couldn't she wait till her son actually came in to sign the document? Is it possible that they were doing all this behind John Daniel's back? Just like his dad, did John Daniel fall a prey to this scam of his signature being forged?
What a scandalous family is this? This Daniel family drama can be used as a plot to make a movie that can beat a movie such as "Godfather."
Oh my Goodness. Look at that evil smile. It is scary even to your enemy this happens. She has that nobody can stop me smile. Symbol of betrayal. JESUS save us .
ReplyDeleteThere is no signature of JD at all in the letter, it is only signed by John Daniel and Peter Iqubal,how come?
ReplyDeleteMost possibly this signature forgery was done by Callu balllu baby a juvenile who has no brain but is full of fear of the first family. Similarly a large number of letters were forged, How many cheques were en cashed God only knows. A word about Mr.Peter Iqbal, who has signed as Director, LEF, No such post exists, if it exists who else are / were the Directors, what were their qualifications. Peter Iqbal married Persis the last daughter of Mr.Daniel , This lady was a highly irritable type of person. To cut the throat of one Mr.Abraham and also the sons of a Prof, Iqbal and family was frog marched to Tiruchi (also to enable JJD to gobble up their 2 combined flats in Mumbai). Persis and Iqbal even went to the extant of filing a case in a Tiruchi court to prevent JD and LD from coming to tiruchi. After the Death of his wife Iqbal changed track and became one with JD and LD, it is surprising that such a person signed on this document to verify it.What about the three preceding pages, Do they contain any significant financial adjustments to Betty?
ReplyDeleteThis information is not fully true.
DeleteBro.Abraham from Trichy a man in his 50's got married late in life to a LEF spinster Barleela and they were asked to minister in Trichy.Bro.Abraham was a secondary grade teacher (Teaching grades 6 to 8 in school).Their marriage took place in the late 80's.
Around 93 JD asked this sister the Bombay woman and her husband to move to Trichy.The house in Casablanca Apartments in Cuffe Parade was sold off.
In order to accomodate JD's sister and husband in Trichy Bro Abraham and his wife were sacrificed.The complaint was offering money.
The Story did not end there.When JD's sister died of overweight and associated illness JD never went to the funeral.The death happened during the May retreat.A smart errand boy named gillis who was waiting to get control moved in buttered JD and took control of Trichy.But he could not steady the oars of the sinking ship and moved to Madras.There may be about 10 or 15 families still coming to LEF meetings in Trichy .
Indeed we would like to know the contents of the preceding three pages for further clarity on the issue..
ReplyDeleteWe are trying to get those papers. Apparently this document was published in Christ is Victor magazine a little after May 2014. Can someone dig through the plies and send what was published in Christ is Victor?
ReplyDeleteit is published in christ is victor june 2014 with late JD'name on bottom of it. I am sending to your mail. david paul
DeleteThank you, David Paul. Will publish the complete letter in a while
DeleteJohn Daniel and all the Board need to come into the light. What a twisted organization is the LEF. No one can name the Board members and there is so much confusion over who actually signed a letter. When the Canadians raised concerns about JD's leadership in 1996, four couples signed a letter and sent it to JD. At a meeting that was held soon after, John Daniel was furious and was "insistent that everyone who signed the letter" hear what JD had to say about it in a meeting. The Canadians refused to be bullied anymore. Now it's time for John and Lily Daniel to come into the light.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to the assets of the Canadian fellowship?
DeleteI have a doubt. John Daniel as a american citizen can he preach in indian public meetings .Soo called revival meeting like in stuatpuram , hyderabad , vijayawada ....etc. ?
ReplyDeleteWhistle Blowers Please tell me
Surely in most countries foreigners can preach (or whatever we call John Daniel's vacuous stammerings) inside a building, even if it is open to the public? This is not the same as holding office in an indigenous (in this case, Indian) organisation, or even open air speaking.
DeleteStrictly speaking John Daniel and all the other foreign jokers they bring along with them to India are coming to India for one purpose which is to "preach Christianity." So, all these people including John Daniel should declare to Indian government the purpose of their visit and should've gotten the appropriate visa which is called "MISSIONARY VISA." This is a visa that allows only one time entry into the country. So, it is obvious that these people are sneaking into India with some other kind of visa, which most probably will be a tourist visa. Now if they are entering as "tourists," then they should act like "tourists" and hence have no business standing up on the podiums to "preach."If reported to appropriate government officials, these people who most probably are coming on tourist visas will be deported if caught preaching or proselytizing as this is contrary to the stated objectives of their visa.
DeleteTo get around this, John Daniel may have gotten himself a OCI card (Overseas Indian Citizen) which is given to people who can prove that they have close ties with India. This OCI status is not equivalent to having DUAL CITIZENSHIP as many people in LEF are wrongly made to believe. As a matter of fact, the letter that was published in Christ is Victor says that John Daniel has "DUAL CITIZENSHIP" which is a big lie as Indian constitution does not allow a person to have dual citizenship. Now the big question is - does the Indian law allow a person who has a OCI status to become the head of an Indian based non-profit society?
As for other members of John Daniel's family (his wife and his 5 children) and other foreigners, if they are coming into the country as "tourists," then it is illegal for them to be engaging in "religious activities." I hope I answered your question.
In no way wishing to contradict WB's response: however does not a 'missionary visa' specifically allow foreigners to preach in public, and to the public, whereas any foreign visitor can 'preach', or say what he likes, inside a private building, providing he is invited to do so? If John Daniel confines himself to LEF 'centres', then he speaks by invitation on private premises, or that would be the LEF contention (not that he or LEF people generally would consider him to be a foreigner, or interloper, in that situation. Of course when he is not in India, but in the USA, then Indians are to be despised by him as 'foreigners'!).
DeleteSince LEF tries to get people into its own premises in order to convey the Gospel (or LEF's version of it!) to them, John Daniel, the Australian sycophants, the American adulterers, the German fan club etc. are not, strictly speaking, acting as 'missionaries'. Of course LEF hopes that non-Christians will be persuaded to come in and hear ('Won't you come into my parlour?', said the spider to the fly......), but it can easily be argued that people who speak in private premises should not be muzzled just because others come in - that they come in of their own free will.
Doesn't Arthur Hill (ancient Aussie LEF retreat participant) take part in the Christian activities of a different group in India? Does he have a missionary visa for that? I am sure that the harmful charismatic and prosperity gospel groups in India quite freely bring in American people to speak.
I don't think that John Daniel et al could be taken to task or exported by officialdom for any basically non-proselytising preaching activity, whatever their nationality. Pity, really........However, happily, India is not yet Russia, China, or one of the strictly Islamic countries. No one would want that kind of persecution to take place, and freedom of speech surely needs to be valued.
On the positive side, whatever his father's cunning and gift of the gab, surely no-one is going to be attracted to LEF by John Daniel's inarticulate ramblings? Unless, of course, his translators substitute actual Gospel messages for his vacuous utterances, which John would never realise had happened....
What can we say, Anonymous April 15, 2016 1:23 PM? As the saying goes - "Rules are made for rogues but gentlemen get to follow it." It is people like these Daniels who cast their dark shadow on the good work that many well being people strive to do. What sense does it make for these Daniels to transport a guy like John Branch to come "preach" to Indian youth for over 10 years? The mainstream Indians stay away from "divorces and second marriages" even if there is a legitimate reason to pursue that path and here we see that Daniels brought in this "foreigner" for over 10 years twice a year to come and "preach" from their pulpits and then turn around marry his mistress after divorcing his wife.
ReplyDeleteThere are more , still hiding trying to grab as much as they can till they are exposed
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