Monday, February 01, 2016

HAVE LEF PRAYER HALLS BECOME PLACES TO HOLD PRIVATE PARTIES?

Absolutely!!! 

This is Hyderabad LEF center prayer hall which is now become a "party hall" for Gnanakalanjiam and his family. It is not just a "party hall" but also a "guest house" for Gnanam's (rather his wife's) huge extended family. Who cooks, cleans and entertains these Gnanam family's state guests? That is an easy guess!!! The poor LEF believers. For LEF evangelists, the labor is not just cheap. It is absolutely free!!! A LEF evangelist who knows how to play the system in LEF gets many perks. In a place like Hyderabad the perks are- a palatial building not only for the evangelist's family to live but also to entertain his esteemed guests, round the clock watchmen, house keepers, cooks, drivers, cleaners...the list goes on and on. 
Some evangelists like Gnanam think that they are just fortunate to be at the right place at the right time. These are the people who get to enjoy the fruits of their predecessors' hard work and ironically start acting like they deserve what they got even if what they got was through back stabbing. While I am writing this, I am pricked in my own conscience that my own father is used by LEF over and over again to take over the places from which Joshua Daniel drove people. I request the well meaning people who read this blog to say a prayer for my father so that he opens his eyes and sees the truth that he is being used as a pawn by these evil people before it is too late. Our only wish is that our father opens his eyes before he crosses over to the other side where no more amends can be made for mistakes and crimes committed. It is a crime that people like my dad are used to drive out people just when it is time for them to enjoy their hard work after they have toiled and worked hard to till the ground, plant the seeds, water and care for the plants to make them fruit bearing trees. Joshua Daniel the monster drove these people out at war footing and used a gullible person like my father as a "substitute evangelist." Gnanam was one such "substitute" who now became a full-time evangelist for Hyderabad center.
Here is a brief history that will explain how Gnanam and his family ended up in Hyderbad:
Late Mr. Jubilee Raj started LEF work in Hyderabad in the year 1965 and gave his sweat and blood for this work for 31 years. He finally called it quits after realizing that it was impossible to maneuver around this Daniel family's cheap politics. Then the 5 people elder team lead by the chief conspirator Kamala Paul (who is now completely out of her mind) was appointed to run this wealthy center (it was common knowledge that the income generated by Hyderabad center was more than what was generated by HQ itself). In a quick turn around of things, Kamala Paul (who spear headed the conspiracy against the late evangelist) herself fell a prey to the same kind of conspiracy that was spear headed by then a nobody, Suresh Marcus (now Suresh Marcus is the king maker in LEF). Once Kamala Paul was exiled, Lily Daniel systematically replaced Kamala Paul's supporters with her stooges. Gnanam, one such stooge was made the evangelist to Hyderabad center ironically after a brief stint by his father-in-law, professor Jobdas Daniel. Why did Mr. Jobdas have only a brief stint? That is another murky story. Mr. Jobdas, a widower, decided to marry a woman from Hyderabad LEF hostel who may be little older than his oldest daughter. This was more in line with N.T. Ramarao's (actor turned politician who was the chief minister of Andhra Pradesh) story. Just like N.T. Ramarao's, Mr. Jobdas's move to marry this woman was eventually justified as it is widely believed that none of Mr. Jobdas's children were willing to take care of him in his old age. Our Telugu readers should relate to this plot very well. Just like N.T. Ramarao was back stabbed by none other than his politically saavy son-in-law Chandrababu Naidu, Gnanam, the smooth operator also managed to win the spot to become Hyderabad "evangelist." In what was a boldly shameless move, Joshua Daniel replaced the father Mr. Jobdas with his daughter and son-in-law (Mrs & Mr. Gnanakalanjiam) !!! That in itself speaks volumes about how low Joshua Daniel could go and also how equally low Helen and her husband could go. How low is one willing to fall ethically in LEF? As low as to publicly tell the whole world that one has no qualms to grab the opportunity to become a "leader" of a place from which her own father is ridiculed and driven out!!! Makes one wonder if Joshua Daniel and LEF people learnt their ways from politicians or politicians learnt the tricks of the trade from charlatans like Joshua Daniel.
Now this Gnanam systematically drove all the old timers from Hyderabad and created his own little fiefdom. Why and how did Gnanam sideline the very people who built this work from the scratch standing along side the late evangelist who pioneered LEF work in Hyderabad? The primary reason was that one or more of these old timers' children married out side LEF. It is one of those draconian rules of LEF which Joshua Daniel used punitively to suppress people who in some way questioned and threatened his authority. Now this very same Gnanam, who used this draconian rule to drive out people from playing any important role in Hyderabad work turns around and uses Hyderabad prayer hall and center to host parties to Helen's siblings all of whom claim to have severed ties with LEF. Helen's older brother got both his sons married out of LEF but then Gnanam generously hosted them and even did some cake cutting ceremony for one of these sons and his wife in Hyderabad LEF prayer hall. Helen's older sister got her daughter married off to someone Joshua Daniel did not approve of and hence she and her husband were stripped off their roles from LEF. Now they are generously hosted in Hyderabad LEF center. Mr. Jobdas was humiliated and treated very badly by Joshua Daniel because Mr. Jobdas's daughter married a non-christian years ago. Some old timers might remember how Mr. Jobdas was made to cry on May retreat stage for failing to raise his children well. Now that woman and her sons are also treated to royalty at Hyderabad LEF center by the magnanimous hosts Gnanam and his wife, Helen. How is all this going unnoticed by Lily Daniel and her good for nothing son John Daniel? Did they re-write the rules in LEF after Joshua Daniel died? If they did, let them please announce the new rules so that the members of LEF congregation are not unnecessarily aggrieved. According to the old rule book of LEF, it was believed that a LEF evangelist and his family cannot allow their relatives into LEF centers, especially if they were not "converted" in LEF or if they officially cut ties with LEF. Hyderabad people (who have seen that neither the late evangelist nor his wife had any of their family members visit them while they were LEF evangelists in Hyderabad for 31 long years) are finding it hard to come to terms with LEF prayer hall being used as a "party hall" by Gnanam and his family. 
We heard from Hyderabad people that one of the LEF members lost his temper seeing this Gnanam family's drama and blasted off Gnanam on a Saturday in front of many people who were there for the fasting prayer. Gnanam gloats that nobody can touch him as he claims that he has full support of "head quarters" and that Lily Daniel and John Daniel won't even entertain any complaints against Gnanam and his family. That may be true but what people like Gnanam don't understand is that if the local people become a thorn in the flesh, no big boss from the top can rescue people like Gnanam from constant pain and torture. Apparently this guy who was outraged with Gnanam's misuse of power confronted Gnanam on more than one thing. This outraged man took the chance to let people know how Gnanam was misusing the LEF prayer hall facilities to feed and entertain his relatives and how Gnanam fleeces money from even poor people when he goes on "house" visits. When people are angry and enraged, they will inadvertently bring out the truths. This man also let all the people know that Gnanam and his wife made LEF women to cook food in large quantities in the LEF center for engagement party of Helen's niece few years ago and for recent engagement party of her nephew (the son of Mr. Jobdas's daughter, who was the reason for all the humiliation that Mr. Jobdas was subjected to as she married a non-christian). Apparently this man told Gnanam that people in Hyderabad center are bored to tears with Gnanam's mind less preaching that goes on and on (the hearsay is that Gnanam rambles on a Sunday morning service for 1.5 hrs to 2 hrs). And that's not it. After this long Sunday service, Gnanam has "youth meeting" right after the main Sunday service. While these young people stay starved till 3 pm or so in the afternoon to get done with Gnanam's shows, Gnanam takes break between his shows to get a quick bite. This angry brother made use of this opportunity to question Gnanam's idiocy in having back to back Sunday services that leave the young people famished and starved.  
It is rather heartening to see that people are revolting against the Daniel family stooges in many prominent centers in Andhra Pradesh. People of Vizag we hear are revolting against Yohanu and want him out of Vizag. Same thing with the people of Vijayawada who want Priyanath out of their hair. Now Hyderabad people are openly defying Gnanam. It will be interesting to see how John Daniel the LEF "President" is going to manage these revolts. Once these Daniel family appointed stooges are shown the door by local people, it will be matter of time before they will show the door to this trio team- Lily Daniel, John Daniel and Lydia Daniel. The day is not too far wherein LEF people will locally take control of LEF centers after kicking this Daniel family and their stooges out. Let us see in how many places will Lily Daniel fight legal battles to keep some of these pricey LEF properties in her wicked grip!!!

38 comments:

  1. please pray it should start in all centers in Tamil Nadu to follow soon...

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    1. Yes, Try to post the things which is happening in Tamilnadu, What is going on in LEF?

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    2. Why do you need one more in Tamil Nadu ? As I know them personally , I would declare them as foolish . And they are nothing

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  2. I feel for people like your Dad who sacrifice their lives to LEF thinking they are serving God. But there are many rogues who have absolutely no qualifications ,no testimony gain the pulpit just by doing dirty jobs and bribing. You will not see this any where. They even split families for their gain. People bow and these rogues behave like holy men. Digusting to see their attitude and pose.

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  3. Very true.i have friends who used to attend hyd lef about gnanam messages.he beats about the bush and with out conclusion he'l finish.i'm not sure if lef preachers can preach in local tv channels or post their audio/video messages on social network.gnanam uploads his messages on youtube.whether this can be aĺlowed only for him.sad to say both the children could not clear their medical entrance(unlike many in lef hyd center) but he managed to buy seatboth mbbs n bds for huge money in private colleges(most of you know how much it would cost).he was boasting in lef center that his son went to nepal after earthquake and he posed for cover page of lef anniversary report book(local evangelist naveen prabhu is not even mentioned).after spending this much money on children can they now send them to kashmir as daniels always tried to chase any doctors who went to them for prayers..helen works in vijaya marie throughout day and never gets time to speak with women and pray for them.neither home visits..gnanam will be on watsapp chatting,changing profile pictures regularly(posing in different positions to show his belly)..wat sort of preachers are these

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    1. Thanks for your input. Those private medical college seats don't come cheap. Gnanam and his wife would have spent at least 1 crore rupees ($150,000) for both their children's education. It is surprising that the family coughed up that kind of money given that the LEF bye-laws state that LEF workers cannot have "immovable properties," which implies that Gnanam is just a "poor evangelist." Gnanam's wife is Gnanam was just a MBBS until recently. She just did some certification in cardiology and there is no way she could've made the kind of money needed to send 2 children to private medical schools. There really is nothing wrong in parents wanting their children to get good education. The problem comes when people like Gnanam run their mouths to antagonize others who are trying to do the same thing for their children. Most children who grew up in Hyderabad LEF way before Gnanam arrived there are all hard working and brilliant children. Many families from Hyderabad LEF have one or more children who work abroad. Just because Joshua Daniel ran his mouth to belittle people who worked abroad, this Gnanam started doing the same. Joshua Daniel was just a hypocrite and a bully and people like Gnanam thought they are being very "Godly" to rant off like old man. Now Gnanam has PA (personal assistant) who also happens to be his translator. Apparently he is the one who sets up appointments for Gnanam and also takes care of the "financial details" of costs associated with Gnanam's preaching appointments.

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    2. Thank you for this blog .. These guys are just awful ... They think that they are theologically strong while they are foolish ... Again, thank you x 10000000

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  4. The timing of this Blog post gives me a message that you are targeting Gnanam and want his ouster from Hyderabad.You could have waited till the Hyderabad meetings are over.Gnanam is not my friend but .........

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  5. Though it is discouraging repeatedly the wicked keep doing what they do and look like they have it all God promis s otherwise and encourage his faithful to his word. Ephesians 8. Because the sentence against an evil deed is not executed quickly, therefore the hearts of the sons of men among them are given fully to do evil. 12Although a sinner does evil a hundred times and may lengthen his life, still I know that it will be well for those who fear God, who fear Him openly

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  6. Why not? Those of us who work in secular jobs - don't we have performance appraisals right before our companies make announcements about bonuses and lay offs? What makes one believe that people who work as pastors and evangelists are not accountable for their performance?

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  7. In any case, we are giving way too much credit to John Daniel, who himself is totally unfit and extremely incompetent for the job that his mother, Lily Daniel signed him up for. It is extremely unlikely that John Daniel neither has the power nor the expertise to deal with the revolts that are springing up all over the place in LEF. At least this post should make Lily Daniel and John Daniel know that they are not the only VVIPs in LEF who get to boss around others. This Gnanam family hijacking LEF spaces should open the eyes of these arrogant Daniels to see that there are many more state guests in LEF whom these Daniel family despises who are treated to royalty right under their noses. John Daniel at least is coming to do his "ministry" where as these "state guests" who are using Hyderabad LEF center as their guest house come here for family get togethers, weddings and vacationing. In a place like Hyderabad a decent double occupancy hotel accommodation costs at least Rs.4000/- - 5000/- ($75 - $100 ) per day. Why should Gnanam's guest spend that money if they have a palace like LEF center to host them. In addition to this these guests can have 24 hour room service with gourmet food prepared by the LEF servant maids. What a shame !!!

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  8. People should not think that LEF halls are their private property, Rich kids who can afford to fly down can easily hold their fun parties in a Resort, Will a poor nameless faceless family be allowed to do the same. JJD, LD and LLD cant talk as they do the same, What a pity that the LEF has become a totally useless irrelevant organization which supports a bunch of robbers and useless people, LEF money givers now at least wake up and support Godly missions with clean hands. Stop feeding such stealing LEF ministers.

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  9. Honest and bitter truth is this. Prof.Dr.Jobdas married this lady who cooked food for him. One thing lead to another, JD tried talking to him and even suggested that he marry an older women, Jobdas said " No body takes care of me", "I want someone to take care of me, I can't take care of an old women, she will be always sick". Now this wife of Jobdas is treated as a slave women as Jobdas has become old. What about her rights? Let LEF people ask Gnanam and Helen.
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    1. Are there different vows of marriage for convenience in lef like only the woman to take care of the man and not vice versa. Really strange . So sad for the woman.

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    2. Like it or not, but what happened was true, I didnt want to paint an old man, but it is true that in the LEF, name, dress, address and money do play a major role, and even what was preached was bent/twisted to help the influential, well connected people. 2 rules were always the norm

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  10. There is good Christian place to help the abused women. Hear great things about this place and the pastor who started this. I am sure.many LEF women in chennai can get help

    http://womenofworth.in/

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  11. There are many issues here.

    1.The LEF Evangelist Gnanam whose future is in jeopardy because of local politics and because of his inability to jell well with the elders.

    2.The Father and Husband Gnanam who is worried over his failing fortunes with the new LEF Regime (John ,Lily and Co).

    3.The Evangelist Gnanam who lost his youth ,a promising career to rot in the Bible College and then gets posted in KGF replacing Dr.Rajadhas .He is asked to marry Dr.Helen who was more qualified.They are a nice couple and were close to the JD Family.

    4.The Evangelist Gnanam who never received a Good Salary from LEF.I am sure Lily and John had spies in Hyderabad .It is not fair to accuse him of misusing the LEF hall for family parties and functions.A small event like cake cutting should not be made as a major issue.

    Why are you guys talking about Jobdas Garu's marriage.Yes he was married earlier,his wife died of Cancer and then he needed some one to take care of him.His children were all in their 30's or 40's and were not in a position to host him in their place.JD gave him the responsibility of pastoring Hyderabad as after Bro.Jubileeraj.Jobdas garu did nothing wrong by marrying that aunty.There have been a number of young widowers who married unmarried girls (Spinsters).If thats not wrong Jobdas Garu's marriage is perfectly ok.Why are you guys comparing him with N.T.Ramarao ?.

    Why are you guys bothered about Dr.Helen's Job on their children's medical studies.I am sure they can live even without the shelter provided by LEF and can afford good education for the children.

    There are many sides to a coin.Look at things with plain glasses.

    Disclaimer: I am not a friend or fan of the Gnanams.Your anger and focus should be on the Goonda family and not on the chamchas.

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    1. Thanks for your, input. Nobody is finding fault with Mr. Jobdas. He did what anybody in his position would do. The comparison to NTR here was made more to show how Gnanam is inline with Chandrababu Naidu. Just like NTR had children, who did not want to take care of their old father and pushed him to fend for himself, Prof. Jobdas's children also ditched their dad to fend for himself. Interestingly, NTR's children, who thought that it was burdensome to take care of their old and sick father did not have any qualms in sharing the loot. Prof. Jobdas was quite wealthy too and we wonder if Jobdas's children who were not "in a position" to take care of their father also were not willing "to take care of his money." It will be nice if someone can throw some light on this.
      Also, your sympathy for Gnanam who did just a small birthday party in prayer hall is rather hypocritical. I am from Hyderabad. I know in and out of Hyderabad and Gnanam's politics. I know how many people Gnanam drove out just because their children married a non-LEF girl/boy and you want us to say that it is no big deal that Gnanam holds personal parties in prayer hall that too for people who chose to marry their spouses outside LEF. How many parents (including mine who don't have any connections to other Christian organizations other than LEF as they come from Hindu background) had to run around and beg "mainline" churches to allow them to use their facilities to have their children's marriages solemnized. And these are people who faithfully gave their tithes to LEF for 20-30 years!!! I personally went and begged the Secunderabad Baptist church pastor to allow us to have my brother's marriage in his church premises. That pastor drilled and drilled me as to why "our church" won't let us use the venue even though we claim to be its "members." Sitting there in that pastor's office who wanted answers for so many legitimate questions that any reasonably intelligent man would ask, I still remember wondering if my parents did the right thing to get "converted," that too through this ridiculous Christian cult called LEF.

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    2. Dear Whistleblower

      I have said in clear terms that i am not a friend or enemy of Gnanam.As a observer sitting in the viewing gallery i am of the view that Gnanam is a small fish.

      When JD celebrated his 80th Birthday there was a special meeting in LEF HQ and all evangelists travelled to LEF HQ paying from their pocket.

      When JD's mother celebrated her 100th Birthday ,there was a special meeting and all those who came were given Food Packets.

      You cannot have different rules for people of Royal Pedigree and the evangelists.

      LEF facilities have been misused by JD and his cronies to drive families into chaos.

      LEF premises were misused by IC and by some more people for immoral activities.

      LEF pulpits have not been used to preach the crucified Christ who died for your sins.It was used to threaten people and target those whom the Evangelists felt are irritants.

      So there are much bigger issues in LEF.Please dont spend time on petty issues like Birthday parties ,Bro.Prasanna Kumar's testimony in Beulah Gardens etc.

      Let us focus on booting out the Goonda Family.

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    3. Yes, there are much bigger issues as you have mentioned, Anonymous February 03, 2016 9:38 AM. This supposedly 'small" fish that act and look like nobodies when the Daniels are around are like "sharks" in their own centers. What you say is very true - we cannot have different rules for people of Royal Pedigree and the evangelists - but the more pertinent question to ask here is who came up with these rules? Head quarters and Beulah Gardens are anyway monopolized by the corrupt Daniel family and their stooges. Why allow that same kind of monopolization in other places? People like Gnanam try to exercise the power that they have never legitimately earned and somehow project that their closeness to the "powers that be" gives them immunity of not ever being held accountable for anything they say and do. Only when the Daniel family stooges feel insecure and threatened, we will see the domino effect that will result in this entire evil kingdom crumbling. Not all evangelists in LEF are like Daniels and Gnanam. There are a lot of people who genuinely care for their people and work over time to protect their congregation from the evil influence of Daniel family and their stooges. Gnanam could have made a different choice and serve the people with love but he obviously didn't. On the other hand, people like Gnanam feel empowered to abuse people and think it is alright to do that as their big bosses Lily Daniel, John Daniel etc. do the same and seem to be getting away with it. The intent of this blog post is not take the focus away from Daniels but to make people realize that if unchecked, not by Daniels but by local people, we will end up having 100 mini John Daniels cropping up all over the place.

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    4. The policy of allowing only select member’s wedding in LEF buildings is crazy. The Bible teaches us that no one should consider themselves superior to another and to love one. I wonder how Joshua Daniel came up with this policy and how people accept this policy. The deluded people regularly go to LEF, finalize the marriage in LEF but hold the ceremony in a different church with the wedding invitation proudly saying that the preacher is from LEF!

      Leaders like the Daniels cannot be booted out without grassroots awareness and support. To bring awareness to the grassroots I think it is necessary to expose local issues and not call them “small fish”.

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    5. Yes you are right. Every issue is important to that particular center to trigger that people are watching them.
      Let it be posted by the viewers. Anonymous February 03, 2016 9:38 AM Just ignore if you don't want to read if you have any favorites.

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  12. The chamchas are no less than LD. Many have no dea how these chamchas act and treat others. They are extention of LD. Contrl everybodies lfe. Some act as if they are the God in others lves.

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  13. in connection with post Anonymous February 01, 2016 12:13 PM....

    Returning from Stuvartpuram campaigns, brought few funny thing from there. john Daniel asked evangelists who have a facebook account to raise their hands, in one of the evangelists meetings. Surprising no one raised their hand, and JJD is happy about it assuming no one have a fb account. Truth is 70% of the evangelists have a fb account. I am not saying that having a fb account is wrong. the point is the foolishness of JJD to believe that no one have an account. He wants to know if evangelists are following this blog too and that can be a real threat to his pocket. One notable point is everyone who spoke spoke from the stage in stuvartpuram have fb account...may be except JJD..lol

    If you don't register your centre/land and prayerhall within one year. No revival meetings in that place. lol..... one evangelist said to be.... thank God.... at last they are sending me out by their own. At least i am not a sinner in the sight of God. Crux of it is ...most of the LEF centres in Andhra are gonna be independent in next one year. Good News to all evangelists who did not registered their centres till now to LEF.

    Not a single evangelist understood what Arthur Hill lectured in evangelists meeting.

    LD bullied telugu people from stage as mindless people, cheap people, narrow minded people , unfaithful people .... so on. she was going on abusing telugus from the stage.

    As if there are no telugus, tamilians are encouraged to speak from the stages. no wonder later they may turn to be IC2. And we are forced to hear from them.

    JJDs msgs are worse as usual. i felt like sitting in a zoo, seeing his face expressions and the noises he make. He dont have a subject. Transulator/interpreters were preaching their own sermons.

    No healing, no prayer, no spirit of repentance as in the gone by days are seen

    Satish Kumar- noted TV evangelist is having back to back meetings from 1st to 3rd Feb in Stuvartpuram. His preaching is far better than LEF's, no doubt. my guess, he would clash the dates next year. Most of the LEF guys will move to Calvary (Satish Kumar's Ministry). Even now LEF Hyderabad youth attend his evening services after the monring worship in kairathabad, they are more inclined to him. if he clash the dats next year, hard time will start to LEF. calvary have a very organised approach and excellent leadership of Mr.Satish.

    And who is this ANGRY BROTHER from Hyderabad? would like to meet him. i guess revealing his name should not be a problem.

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      What kind of fool other than John Daniel will ask the evangelists to raise their hands if they have Facebook accounts in this day and age? It may be of interest to know that only regimes of evil dictators were against people connecting through social media as it threatened their very existence. While the whole world is exploiting technological advances for betterment of society, John Daniel wants to impose his ridiculous "stone age" mindset on people. Is John Daniel some kind of a caveman? Woe to LEF people if they are under the regime of a caveman like John Daniel because cavemen know only to use brute force to impose their ways on people. I feel sorry for all the educated "illiterates" of LEF who have now come under the rule of this tribal leader whose mind set is nothing better than that of a caveman of the stone age. These Daniel family jokers are just a disgrace as all they are doing with their stone age mentality is insult the human intelligence, the intelligence that sets human beings apart from animals. A dog, cat, tiger, monkey or any for that matter is not in pursuit of its well being and hence has no desire or capability to invent and discover newer technologies or better ways to live. All that an animal needs to worry about is its survival and procreation and within its fixed tenets an animal uses all that is in its instinct to just survive and procreate. But we, human beings are set apart because we strive for something much more than survival. This pursuit for some thing more than just survival is the driving force behind human innovation. The huge technological advances we have seen in the space of information sharing has given rise to one of the best known tools to man in the field of information technology. The use of internet to communicate, share and to connect with people from all walks of life and across the globe is a boon to human society. Every forward looking business, religious group, community is using any and all platforms available in the field of information technology to enhance their processes and methods of communication to reach out to the "unreached." Only people who are involved in nefarious activities are afraid of open platforms such as Facebook, blogs, whatsapp etc. Why should John Daniel feel so threatened when people in LEF use these tools? That in itself should ring a huge alarm bell to people who are still stuck in this rotten LEF. How long will John Daniel use his unintelligent ways to control people? People are not idiots like he is thinking. If nobody raised his hand when John Daniel asked the question as to who all have FB accounts, we cannot automatically assume that people were scared of this joker and that's why they didn't raise their hands. It simply means that people find his "nonsense" to be so irrelevant ans so don't find a reason to be involved with his so called "preaching." For heaven's sake, these evangelists are grown men and what makes this poor joker John Daniel think that they will all raise their hands as some "school children" when he asks such stupid questions. We have been in classrooms where an unprepared and unintelligent teacher just makes a fool of himself/herself in front of the students and the students just sit there totally bored and uninvolved looking at the watches to see when it is time to get out of the class. That may be what exactly may be happening in these so called "evangelists' meetings. All that those evangelists would have done is "ignore" this joker when he asked them to raise their hands. John Daniel, an idiot that he is wants to believe that people are "terrified" of him, while all that these poor evangelists are trying to do is ignore this buffoon. This buffoon John Daniel will not long last in India if all his "preaching" is focused on making monkey noises and clown faces.

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      A keen eye can observe that even the very people whom John Daniel promotes on LEF stages subtly under play John Daniel and his "leadership." Go back to retreat archives and see how Mr. Priyanath refers to this joker while "introducing" him to come on stage to "preach" All he says is "now JOHN (not JOAN, Mr. Priyanath, who is a London return knows his English well) will speak to us." He doesn't add all these ornate introduction such as Bro. John Daniel, Man of God Mr. John Daniel, or not ever Mr. John Daniel." All he says is - John will speak to you. Plain and simple...That in itself should tell that most people despise this fool in their hearts but are just going though the motions to get through the circus shows.

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  14. The main topic of this particular WB blog seems to be the use of LEF 'property' for private purposes by people, 'leaders' and chamchas, who consider themselves more entitled to do this than the average attender, who is barred from doing so. The subject then deviates towards the marital activities of a now old man. All of this has been aggravated by the unbiblical, indeed cultish, construct of LEF as directed by various members of the Daniel family over some decades. As with most cults, this inevitably results in a culture of 'them' and 'us', 'them' being the common herd, which attends services and pays for the privileges enjoyed by 'us', who are largely the extended Daniel family and their chamchas and henchmen.

    Cults characteristically lay down many extra-biblical 'rules' for their devotees, and it is common for the 'leadership' to behave in a way which indicates that such 'rules' do not apply to them. 'Do as I say, not as I do!'. In genuine Christian church fellowships it is not unusual for church buildings to be borrowed for purposes other than services. The membership as a whole will approve what it will allow on its premises. A church I used to attend decided to allow our hall to be used for a disabled toddler's birthday party. The mother was not a Christian, but known to the church through its congregation's witness to her, and she lived in a very cramped flat. The child's life expectancy was very limited. Generally speaking it is not considered wrong for attendees to ask for the use of the premises for such family occasions, provided that these do not interfere with worship, and do not involve activities which would not be appropriate (drinking, gambling etc.). There is sometimes a small charge involved to cover heating, cleaning etc. It can be a gesture of kindness towards both believers and others.

    The problem here seems to be that the Hyderabad premises were being used by people who considered themselves to be extra-privileged, without reference to the permission and opinion of the 'ordinary' LEF attender, and that such privileges would not be extended to the latter. WB has given examples of this.

    This must surely bring LEF readers back to one of the foundational problems in LEF. To whom do the buildings belong, and why? Who says what should happen in them, and why? The simple answer should be, 'the membership', not 'the leadership'. The 'leadership' may usefully suggest, but the 'membership' must give final approval. LEF is chaotic because the biblical guidance for church government has never been followed or honoured. LEF is subject to an ongoing dictatorship. It is not a church. The same is true of marital unions. Guidance for these is given in Scripture. It is not the province of the Daniels to invent the 'rules'.

    WB's latest blog merely demonstrates just how confused and ignorant the thinking is in LEF, and how little teaching about genuine Biblical principles is given. LEF people should abandon LEF and run biblical fellowships, away from Daniel/chamcha influence. Let the hirelings have their self-bequeathed privileges and marriages. When the tithes and offerings dry up they will eventually have to finance their own parties and pay for the upkeep of any premises they want to make use of.
    Learn from their bad example, but do not be stumbled by it.


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    1. Just an aside, really.

      Mr. and Mrs. Chuck Lambdin (a.k.a. Betty Daniel and consort) appear to be on holiday in Florida.

      This is curiously close to the end of Betty's recent 'preaching tour(!)' in S. India. She has also acquired a half hour 'spot' on an obscure Telegu TV programme, at the end of which appears a request for 'contributions'. Mr. Lambdin pastors a very small church in a deprived district of South Bend, USA. Not much in the way of tithes and offerings there, one might conclude. Betty allegedly still runs a real estate agency office attached to her husband's church building; however every review published about her 'real estate' abilities (freely available on line) is extremely negative, so not much income there either.........

      Hence one is tempted to wonder whether there is a connection between Betty's 'preaching' activities in India and the Lamdins's ability to afford their present holiday in Florida. Not to mention the frequency with which they seem to be able to 'eat out' in what appear to be exotic restaurants in the South Bend area - breakfast, lunch, dinner, you name it ; and since Betty is an expert in the spiritual 'healing' of kitchen appliances, it cannot be because her kitchen is permanently out of action.

      I cannot afford to eat out regularly, can you?

      As frequently commented here, the (Daniel) apple does not seem to fall far from the (Daniel) tree...........

      Thinking of hiring myself out for a 'preaching tour' too. Any invitations on offer, poor people of S. India?

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  15. Obviously. Everyone in LEF agree that there is 100% corruption including the so called loyals . God does clearly teaches us that we do not have to be afraid, agree or follow them. Only then we are considered noble in GOD'S eyes. Just following blindly , act peacefully with people who does does not follow bible WILL NOT please GiOD

    http://biblehub.com/titus/1-11.htm. ( False teachers dont obey the word)

    10For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain. 12One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, "Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons."…


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-11.htm. ( Expose them)

    Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

    http://biblehub.com/acts/17-11.htm. ( Check their life with preaching )

    Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

    http://biblehub.com/john/12-43.htm. ( Men pleasing no use )

    for they loved human praise more than praise from God.

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    1. 110% correct totally agreed ! well done !!

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    2. If EVERYONE in LEF agrees that LEF is 100% corrupt, why are people still attending the centres, probably kow-towing to its 'leaders', and giving it their hard-earned money and goods?

      I see a lot of protesting and agreement here about LEF corruption and apostasy, but what is the point if you are still part of LEF? Whistleblowers and Suniemi have plainly (and independently) stated that they left LEF years ago, even though their family members are involved. What is stopping you doing the same? Surely you are not scared of naive, gullible family members, or of laughably foolish con artists like the Daniels? Wouldn't you like to see your dear ones freed from this form of slavery? Even the LEF goondas have no real power over you unless you give it to them. What are you afraid of? It is true that women, and especially mothers, married to deluded LEF husbands are in difficult situations, but you have seen how the mother of a Whistleblower, despite her husband's deep loyalty to LEF, steadfastly protected herself and her children from LEF influence and abuse when she realised how harmful LEF can be.

      Why are the Whistleblowers and Suniemi putting themselves to the considerable trouble of running their blogs for your benefit if you are just going to use them to vent your frustrations and write complaining posts, but do nothing about stopping the influence and spread of this abusive cult? Surely that is what is condemned in the Bible as 'murmuring' - scandalising about this and that, but doing nothing about it?

      We have read the testimonies of some who turned their backs on this cultish organisation years ago and have been blessed as a result. Please let us read many more accounts of people who are still doing the same.

      We do not want this blog to turn into a mere nest of disgruntled complainers who do not have the courage openly to separate themselves from the evil that is LEF. How does that glorify our Lord Jesus Christ, whose apostle, Paul, plainly told us, 'What fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial?.........Come out from among them and be ye separate.....and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty' (2 Cor. 6: 14 - 18)?

      This is God's challenge to you. Accept it and act on it.

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    3. You are right whoever you are sir. what is the point of just venting our frustrations here if we don't act upon it.I'm proud to say that I made the right decision by leaving LEF 3 years ago. I didn't know about whistleblowers at that time but I have been following WB since 3 years and it has only encouraged me more and more that I have made the right decision.I always always had a guilty conscience when I was in LEF. Their preaching never encouraged me. I always had low self esteem. I was in such a bondage I can't tell you people how blessed I am now because of WB. My husband gets all fierce when anyone says anything bad about LEF. and you can imagine what kind of opposition I'm facing from my sisters in law and mother in law... They think my 4 year old daughter has no hope because she's not growing up in LEF. I just pray my husband changes. All people who attend LEF even after knowing all the rot in it are simply spineless...That's all I can say.Praying for you, WB. YOU GO,GIRL !!

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    4. Anonymous 4 Feb pm

      Thank you for posting this. It's exactly the kind of message that is needed right now. How wonderful that your daughter has been snatched from the clutches of LEF at an early age. I pray that the rest of your family, and especially your husband, will, through the ministry of the Holy Spirit, be in enabled to follow the truth, and to follow the real Jesus Christ and not the parody set forth by the Daniels and LEF.

      God bless you!


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    5. Many thanks for sharing your experience with LEF and your courageous step to walk out. Yes, we need to do what is in the best interest of our own children. Parents are the only advocates a child has and under no circumstance a parent should work against his/her own child. This cult, LEF from its inception has undermined the importance of family as a building block of the society. As ridiculous as it is, these Daniel family rogues created systems where a wife is pitched against the husband and the husband is pitched against the wife. In some cases children are pitched against the parents and vice versa. There are many families in LEF, where one sibling doesn't talk to the other just because they are caught up in this evil web created by LEF. Thanks for your encouragement, Anonymous February 04, 2016 9:53 PM. It is not easy to fight against a systematically institutionalized evil of LEF and Daniel family. Just like any cult, LEF also has vice grip on people's minds. Joshua Daniel, who had an evil grip on thousands for about 4-5 decades used every available tool to mangle the minds and thinking of people - fear, blackmail, bullying were generously used by Joshua Daniel and his stooges and if these didn't work, Joshua Daniel used his "crocodile crying" in his preaching to make people feel guilty for no apparent reason. It is worth the trouble we are taking even if a handful of people find the courage to turn their backs to these evil people.

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  16. Evangelists and their children must not be pampered by the fellowship congregation.This is an unhealthy practice.There is no need to show them extra concessions and treat them as though they are from heaven.They are ordinary people like you and me.In America we call it Preacher's Kid Syndrome.

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  17. Can someone please explain the mystery of how Suresh Marcus who used to be a nobody rose up to such a high position?

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    1. AFAIK Suresh Marcus did invaluable spying work for JD&family, He was the first person who reported on WP and KP activities as a double agent. His talents were recognized by JD who even then sent him by Air to preach in Hyd. He also learnt fast and his star is on its ascendant, but like all non Daniel stars in the LEF it will soon will become a comet to be banished to the outer dark areas of space soon

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  18. LEF guys are just foolish. They think that they are theologically super strong . But they are awful. Their teachings doesn't align with Bible. Ever !! Just beat the shit of them

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