Kudzu94, you seem to be
having a keen insight into the illegal activities of this rogue family. If doctor they found as a scape goat is going to be as naive as to allow these unscrupulous people to forge his
signatures and sign blank papers and blank cheques, then probably he is another
rubber stamp like the other board members. Don't these highly educated men have
any self-respect to be bossed around by the late president's wife of all people? A woman who
clearly had never stepped out her role as the great leader's wife to
fend and support her husband and children like thousands of professional women
in LEF who have had successful careers and who have proved themselves as more
than capable to take on any leadership role. Even the older daughter of LEF founder (who went to Germany for higher studies) who took
care of the LEF administration for a long time has proved herself as somebody
who excelled professionally. It is a shame that these men lack self-respect and
chew on the bones that the late president's wife throws at them to make them play to her
tunes. What a shame? Also, did anybody inquire if the three members of the late president's family are intelligent enough to be leaders of LEF? What is late president's youngster daughter's (who is the newest member of the board) professional profile? What did she do to support herself in college -
modelling!!!
Her linked in profile shows that she is a representative for a phone company -
A representative like a call center employee???
A representative like a call center employee???
These people are clearly not the brightest. Shame on these leaches who are trying to suck the
blood out of the poor evangelists who toil day and night to build God's work to
send it to these rogues so that they can eat like gluttons!!! The present head of LEF has the audacity to tell the evangelists after his dad's funeral that
just like his dad he also did not get guidance from God to pay salaries to
evangelists.
What kind of dacoits are these first family members? While young people from
simple walks of LEF are doing extremely well in the US and are excelling
professionally due to their hard work and good work ethics, these rogues steal
money from simple Indian people to feed their fat bellies. And jokers like
truthshouldbe true and truthsearch 3 want to support these rogues. These lazy
people who are worth nothing in US try to throw their weight around in front of
simple people and put up a show in front of poor Indians. How come they don't
get to show their "talents" in US and build a congregation in US? Is
it because these people are "nobodies" and nobody in the US takes
these jokers seriously to come and listen to their blabbering. Late LEF president ran a church for 20+ years in US. Somebody go and check how many people go to
their Sunday morning service - 10?15? 20? (this includes the present head's half a
dozen people in his household).
Dear brothers Kudzu94 & LEFWB!! please note that nobody who is arguing at this level would be a joker(I never mind being called a joker if you are telling all truth) and beware for what you are doing. You are posting and removing the comments(that you does'nt like) at your will and trying to mislead the people and create confusion in the name of whistle blowing. You are very smart and you know what the Word of God says "He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool*(Proverbs-10:18) truthshouldbetrue!! Please don't tell lies as God is watching and his throne of judgment is not far away. Anybody who has eaten God's money undeserving is a thief and cannot escape. But you under the cloak of whistle blowing are deleting comments that are posted against you which fact cannot be proved as you are the admin!! Beware this is cheating and you have to answer before the living God. Under the name of questioning by a frustrated member writing letter to Dr.Pushparaj you have given answer to your own quetions. Please note your first two questions regarding Betty and Lydia. You have thrown mud on their characters. Indians are people who generally are very cautious on commenting against women and do so unless they have solid proofs. Don't post your own notions. This is not child's play
ReplyDeleteAre you done preaching? Any other sermon left? I wish you gave similar sermons to LEF leaders. That would have saved their faces...
DeleteLet us see what truth you want listen. We totally understand your devotion to anything that is LEF- heads, tails, cats, dogs and anything and everything that you consider LEF. Why don't you do everybody a favor and get answers that you think are true to the letter addressed to Dr. Pushparaj and publish them here. All we are asking for is transperancy that is clearly lacking in LEF. Please work on getting first family's answers to these questions and get an affidavit from the present head of LEF saying that he is giving these answers. Once you get that we will write an apology to every single LEF member and to first family members and will shut down blog.
ReplyDeletethat's well said!! Why don't you pray that God may expedite his action against the real culprits.
ReplyDeleteWhat is well said, dear truthsearch3? You have a job to do my dear sir or madam of trying to get the "true answers" for the questions addressed to LEF head. Please get busy in getting the answers. Yes, we LEFwhistleblowers will surely be praying for you and people of your kind as you all take up the daunting job of interviewing the head of LEF to get the "true" answers for the questions.... DEAL? We strongly believe that the answers that head of LEF gives will help us to isolate the culprits so that all of us not only get to pray to God to expedite HIS action against them but also book these rogues to put them behind the bars. That way we can teach people a lesson that they dare not touch the " God's anointed and destroy God's work." So, is that a DEAL?
ReplyDeleteBest Joke of the Blog.
DeleteDear truthsearch3, an admin can remove comments which he feels are not necessary, If you are so particular of your comments please start another free blog.
ReplyDeleteI am not trying to mislead people,
You answer whether this is misleading or not. Question “How did you build a mansion with 3 stories after retirement age without any pension”. Answer “My son gave me 50% of the costs”. How did the son get money “My mum gave me”, how the mum got the money to give you Mom replies “God gave me, and I gave to my son, I didn’t want the filthy money, you ask God”.
You have worked hard to find a verse, here are a few more appropriate ones
He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labour, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need. Ephesians 4:28
'You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another. Leviticus 19:11
you, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that one shall not steal, do you steal? Romans 2:21
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"As the thief is shamed when he is discovered, So the house of Israel is shamed; They, their kings, their princes And their priests and their prophets, Jeremiah 2:26
He who is a partner with a thief hates his own life; He hears the oath but tells nothing. Proverbs 29:24
Your rulers are rebels and companions of thieves; Everyone loves a bribe And chases after rewards They do not defend the orphan, Nor does the widow's plea come before them. Isaiah 1:23
Men do not despise a thief if he steals To satisfy himself when he is hungry; But when he is found, he must repay sevenfold; He must give all the substance of his house Proverbs 6:30-31.
Please don't tell lies as God is watching and his throne of judgment is not far away, Yes but he is a righteous judge, he watches over all people, If you have this fear will such open stealing happen?
Anybody who has eaten God's money undeserving is a thief and cannot escape, don’t put a same side Goal and make the already nervous people more nervous. Say like this “Bro. John Daniel will not do anything wrong, if he does wrong it will become good”, then applause will follow and you will be given a star to wear on your shoulder.
Please note your first two questions regarding Betty and Lydia. You have thrown mud on their characters. Indians are people who generally are very cautious on commenting against women and do so unless they have solid proofs.
Character is what you don’t do when nobody is watching you, it is not visible so I cannot throw mud at a person’s character. I think you were asleep when great messages were given by a great leader. “Someone told that John was driving a bike with a girl sitting at the back (we all thought it can be one of his daughters, so no harm in it) in Singapore, Do you think those girls will be like the trash women who are in Madras”. Much more graphic descriptions were given. These girls/women lived their own life, I don’t judge them but I don’t like frauds who pretend that they are the Holy Mary’s sister, and sit on the LEF board. Enough Solid proofs are available. (Photo, video, audio and personal testimonies), just for the kick ask them whether the words MASI* (not Madras ring a bell)
Don't these highly educated men have any self-respect
ReplyDeleteAny person who occupies a high post must understand that all posts are temporary, and must not try to hold the post with both hands, Secondly Jesus gives the grace to walk alone with head held high. LEF has got the best of best people, but here the best qualification is no qualification, only Daniel name matters. How much money is mismanaged and stolen. So God has become an Administrative Officer to John Daniel, Maybe he was wearing a safari suit and told John, Sir, I can’t agree”. There were enough males there (proved by the fact that they had enough children), why not even one got up and asked Sir, in the Holy Bible it is written, God wont contradict his words,
Romans 4:4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due.
James 5:4 Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts.
Leviticus 19:13 “You shall not oppress your neighbor or rob him. The wages of a hired servant shall not remain with you all night until the morning.
Jeremiah 22:13 “Woe to him who builds his house by unrighteousness, and his upper rooms by injustice, who makes his neighbor serve him for nothing and does not give him his wages,
1 Timothy 5:18 For the Scripture says... “The laborer deserves his wages.”
Malachi 3:5 ESV “Then I will draw near to you for judgment. I will be a swift witness against those who oppress the hired worker in his wages, the widow and the fatherless, against those who thrust aside the sojourner, and do not fear me, says the Lord of hosts.
Colossians 4:1 Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven.
Luke 10:7 , for the laborer deserves his wages. Do not go from house to house.
Deuteronomy 24:14-15 “You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your brothers or one of the sojourners who are in your land within your towns. You shall give him his wages on the same day, before the sun sets (for he is poor and counts on it), lest he cry against you to the Lord, and you be guilty of sin.
Luke 3:14 ESV … and be content with your wages.”
Matthew 20:1-15 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a master of a house who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. After agreeing with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And going out about the third hour he saw others standing idle in the marketplace, and to them he said, ‘You go into the vineyard too, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went. Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same. ...
1 Corinthians 9:14 In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.
Ephesians 6:9 Masters, do the same to them, and stop your threatening, knowing that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and that there is no partiality with him.
Matthew 20:1-16 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a master of a house who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. After agreeing with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And going out about the third hour he saw others standing idle in the marketplace, and to them he said, ‘You go into the vineyard too, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went. Going out again about the sixth hour and the ninth hour, he did the same. ...
Ezekiel 16:49-50 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it.
King Jehoshaphat said in the Bible at 2 Chronicles 9: 6-7 He said to the judges, "Consider what you are doing, for you do not judge for man but for the LORD who is with you when you render judgment. "Now then let the fear of the LORD be upon you; be very careful what you do, for the LORD our God will have no part in unrighteousness or partiality or the taking of a bribe."
ReplyDeleteKing Jehoshaphat said in the Bible at 2 Chronicles 9: 6-7 He said to the judges, "Consider what you are doing, for you do not judge for man but for the LORD who is with you when you render judgment. "Now then let the fear of the LORD be upon you; be very careful what you do, for the LORD our God will have no part in unrighteousness or partiality or the taking of a bribe."
ReplyDeleteDear Whistle Blower, get some first hand accounts from teachers in the LEF schools (you wont believe, the mum will be paid Rs.1300/month, and childrens fees will be Rs 1300/month, mum will be asked to pay in full), nurses in the Hospitals, Evangelist Trainees in Beulah Garden (you cant eat even one mango/ coconut but buy it), even the women whom IC abused, Senior evangelists who were kicked out / abused as bandicoots (disguise the source and personal information to prevent revenge action) and publish at least 2 a day
ReplyDeleteDear Whistle Blower, get some first hand accounts from teachers in the LEF schools (you wont believe, the mum will be paid Rs.1300/month, and childrens fees will be Rs 1300/month, mum will be asked to pay in full), nurses in the Hospitals, Evangelist Trainees in Beulah Garden (you cant eat even one mango/ coconut but buy it), even the women whom IC abused, Senior evangelists who were kicked out / abused as bandicoots (disguise the source and personal information to prevent revenge action) and publish at least 2 a day
ReplyDeleteWell my dear kudzu94! and Mr.Blower! It is clearly understood that you know the Word of the Living God very well and seem to be fighting against immorality and corruption....and we bless you that God may grant you victory if your fight is in his will.
ReplyDeleteAt First, let us tell you that we also a group of people who are converted, left our debauched lifestyles, gross immorality, terrible addictions, demon possessions, stealing and bribery, spirit of covetousness which caused much corruption in our lives and other forms sinfulness under strong conviction of sin moved by the spirit of God and are healed from our sicknesses and delivered from our sins which was clearly manifest in LEF. After our regeneration we are living in the fear of our LORD and have abstained from evil in hope of eternity with JESUS and preach the Word of God as onto this day and follow the written Word of God as our law book. Today we and our children are eating the sweet fruits of God’s righteousness. This is what we also understand from the teachings of late Joshua Daniel. We saw with our eyes the works of the LORD through him. Moreover God is also doing his work through us also resulting in the turning of people from sin to God's righteousness. These are in no way jokes but are true facts coming out of our hearts and lives (as it is in the case of many others also) and you must understand that there is not at all any need for us to follow any cat or dog but the living God. We also know that any other human invented agency (let it may be individual or collective intelligentsia) has never done and can never do these kinds of things other than the spirit of God. And this is the very reason LEF is led by Daniel family for a staggering 80 years (as you have also acknowledged) because of the consonance between their teaching and lifestyle as believed by the rest of the LEF adherents (you are not being preached a sermon but told of the practical experiences)
My dear truthsearach 3, you are trying to miss the point. This blog is not making any allegations that the experiences of people like you and many others are fake. We acknowledge and appreciate it as much as you all do. We are not saying that a person's experience with God is dubious. The fact that you are trying to ignore in your effort to blow the the first family trumpet is - is this devotion of people towards God being exploited by the rogue mom and present leader of LEF just like it was exploited by the late president? A person or an organization should not only be fair but also appear fair. When people are questioning about the operational fallacies of LEF, you are telling giving some philosophical answers...You had a job to find answers to that big list of questions from the first family. Get those answers first and then we will talk...enough of your trumpet blowing. Get busy and do some real work
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