THE PURPOSE OF THIS BLOG IS TO EXPOSE THE FALSE TEACHINGS, HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SEXUAL ABUSES AND FINANCIAL MISAPPROPRIATIONS BY LEADERS OF LAYMEN'S EVANGELICAL FELLOWSHIP. LEF IS REMOTELY CONTROLLED BY DANIEL FAMILY WHICH HAS MIGRATED TO USA ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO. LEF, A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR ENTITY, NEITHER GIVES ANY FORMAL MEMBERSHIPS, NOR IS ACCOUNTABLE TO THOUSANDS WHO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THIS ORGANIZATION WITH THEIR TITHES(10% OF INCOME) AND OFFERINGS, NOR PAYS SALARIES TO ITS WORKERS.
Wednesday, December 07, 2016
HERE IS THE ADVICE GIVEN BY THE TORCH BEARER OF DANIEL FAMILY TELLING PEOPLE TO LIE TO INDIAN GOVERNMENT!!!
I think this account Liz van camp fake. As I observed, it's run by someone else, not Betty daniel. Most probably the facebook account holder is close associate of Betty, NRI who travelled along with her in india and abroad. So we take things lightly. Because the blogger might have a close relationship with the facebook account.
No, it's not a fake. She has 2 FB accounts in 2 of her names (leaving room for 2 more in her other 2 names - one of the 'blessings' of multiple marriages!). She announced a while back that her huge popularity made this necessary! Besides, there is no mistaking Betty's unique style - practically illiterate, short phrases with no finite verbs, like a minor actor in B grade gangster movie. Also her bosom church buddies and fellow self-styled 'missionaries to India', Rick and Carrie Immel, would not respond to a fake account. This is all Betty (tragically).
I checked her account pics. She doesn't know telugu. How can she post pics with telugu font?. Surekha... Find real account. We all know how to log into single account with multiple users...
It can only be in the gracious providence of God, and for India's benefit, that false teachers like Meyer and Hinn have been prevented from entering India. There are already enough other self-promoting money grabbers operating there under the auspices of their false 'gospel ' of greed and deception.
One can only hope that their equally deluded and attention-seeking admirers, such as Betty Daniel, Mr. Betty Daniel, and Rick and Carrie Immel, are also banned. India doesn't need such people coming over and patronising its poor and needy, infecting them with 'refrigerator-healing' doctrines, and posting on Facebook self-promoting pictures and videos of themselves 'ministering' to them with falsehoods disguised as preaching and prayer.
There are in India, and have been for many years, genuinely Christian indigenous Indian pastors and others, who have been quietly loving their fellow-Indians locally, teaching only biblical truth, and sharing their beliefs when appropriate. They do not claim to be especially 'anointed by the Holy Spirit ' to protect themselves from accountability, and their teachings and practices from biblical evaluation. They do not embarrass, bribe, or bully people into giving them money. They do not parade themselves on TV, or engage in whistle-stop 'revival' or 'healing' tours. It is of such insignificant, faithful, unpublicised christians that Jesus was speaking when he declared 'I shall build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it'. They will always be in the minority, a 'remnant' as the Bible describes them. Conversely, the gate TO hell is opened wide by the likes of Hinn and Meyer, and their acolytes such as Betty and Chuck Daniel and the Immels.
The Devil is 'the father of lies', Betty. Only apostates like you who do not understand the true nature and invulnerability of Christ's church will resort to advocating deception under the cloak of Christ's gospel in order to by-pass a nation's immigration policies; and only someone of your intellectual limitations would be foolish enough to post such advice publicly on Facebook! Let us hope that the Indian authorities are tracking the names and Facebook utterances of you and your 'spiritual' associates.
Joyce Meyers and Benny Hinn denied visas? Wonderful news. Now, if both Betty AND John cd. be kept out of India this wd. be yet another blessing for India. I remember hearing how some of the LEF were troubled when Richard Wurmbrand came to speak (IN Madras, I think)and retold how he lied to communist authorities to protect Christians. Whether you find this controversial or not, the Daniels lie all the time to protect and enrich themselves. Oh the irony.
Liz Van Camp to XXXX XXXX 16 hrs · XXXX please tell your friend Terry Huffman that he has befriended XXXX XXXX the head of the Whistleblower. She is a militant Hindu, trying to stop all missionary work. She dragged a Hindu gang into the HQ to attack my 80 year old mom. Just for your knowledge her best writer in the Whistleblower is a porn addict who watches porn as he rapes his wife and showed his wife's private parts to his tiny girls. Maybe you have some way to influence this poor man. All this is fact. Which is why the hatred spewing forth out of Whistleblower comments is nothing but demonic The Indians deserve something much better than the Daniel family cd. ever offer. Comments anyone?
Thanks for sending this, Terry Huffman. I guess LIZ Van Camp aka Betty Daniel is sending you some "spiritual advice." The woman seems to be surely on something that causes her to hallucinate. There are no other writers of this blog except me. There are many who comment and whoever this man this crazy woman is talking about may have surely commented on this blog and this woman Liz Van Camp I am guessing surely knows which comment was his as it would have hit her below the belt. All her rants about this "Hindu gang" is her way of defending her evil mom whom she referred to as Jezebel or some such nonsense not too long ago. This fool has such a hard time to decide on what side of the truth she chooses to stand. She keeps ranting off that some Hindu gang attacked some "LEF pastors." This moron posted a huge account of how one of this great LEF pastor Gunalan who was the one who did all the talking when I went to that hell hole called LEF HQ was a "murderer" who killed his "illegitimate grand child on her FB. Let this fool stop her 80-yr old from running wild in ruining the lives of many innocent people so that no Hindu has to show up at their God forsaken hell house called LEF HQ. Her mom and dad are the people who fixed the marriage of this alleged rapist she is talking about and after having ruined the life of an innocent girl by getting her married off to the person she is describing here, this arrogant and deluded fool still has the audacity to turn around and blame the whole world. The only way my rational mind can process the craziness of this maverick is to think that this woman is completely off her rocker.
Sadly the kind of false teaching absorbed and propagated by Betty Daniel and her associates is often very attractive to unstable people. Betty's life to date, and her various pronouncements (whether on TV or on Facebook or anywhere else), clearly demonstrate that she is an unstable woman, which is not surprising, given her parentage and family background. However it is quite worrying that her FB posts are becoming more extreme, and especially that she appears to be increasingly and publicly preoccupied with deviant sexual matters, 'militant Hindus' apparently chasing her, and imaginary 'demons'. I find her obsession with pornography and rape very disturbing, and what she has posted on Facebook about 'tiny girls' is unbelievably crude, as well as very destructive to those quite easily identified children, and that family. A very unsavoury and damaged woman. Somebody should complain to Facebook about the post Terry has quoted; it violates the welfare and reputations of the children she so callously targets. Betty Daniel's public vitriol needs to be curbed, even if it does emanate from a disturbed mind.
(An aside from the Betty Daniel saga). Looks like John Branch is still checking into Whistleblower! No, John, we haven't forgotten your extra-marital escapades yet - just in case you are thinking of setting up again as some kind of 'pastor' when the publicity eventually dies down.......though a public confession and apology to all the LEF people you hypocritically 'ministered to' and misled might minimally improve your chances. Or you might consider work as a scaffolder on a building site. . They do a lot of loud shouting. Moral rectitude not an essential qualification either (judging by the scaffolders I have been privileged to overhear - however apologies to those of the scaffolding fraternity who have nothing in common with Mr. Branch).
Terry, not sure if you have seen the comments which I have left published for a while from some random guy called Anil who tries to spam the blog. With all his incoherent and irrelevant comments, he also sends some random verses from the Bible. Poor fellow seems to have completely lost it!!! He keeps wanting to believe that he sees me in some Egmore station in Chennai ...ha ha. I purged the blog of this moron's mad ravings and in the process may have removed all the linked comments. Just clarifying that I did not have to moderate any comments from you except that I had to delete some of the comments remove the trails of the mad ramblings. Things seem to be coming to some logical end though. The Indian government in its multi-pronged attack on corruption is turning the country on its head. Many corrupt are coming to books and I am hearing some murmurs that LEF is caught in the net laid by the government. So, let us hope the New year gives people caught in this mess some fresh air to breathe to get a fresh and new perspective...
the word "something else" is deleted by her. She is watching this post regularly, good habit. she must change then.
ReplyDeleteI think this account Liz van camp fake. As I observed, it's run by someone else, not Betty daniel. Most probably the facebook account holder is close associate of Betty, NRI who travelled along with her in india and abroad. So we take things lightly. Because the blogger might have a close relationship with the facebook account.
DeleteNo, it's not a fake. She has 2 FB accounts in 2 of her names (leaving room for 2 more in her other 2 names - one of the 'blessings' of multiple marriages!). She announced a while back that her huge popularity made this necessary! Besides, there is no mistaking Betty's unique style - practically illiterate, short phrases with no finite verbs, like a minor actor in B grade gangster movie. Also her bosom church buddies and fellow self-styled 'missionaries to India', Rick and Carrie Immel, would not respond to a fake account. This is all Betty (tragically).
DeleteI checked her account pics. She doesn't know telugu. How can she post pics with telugu font?. Surekha... Find real account. We all know how to log into single account with multiple users...
DeleteIt can only be in the gracious providence of God, and for India's benefit, that false teachers like Meyer and Hinn have been prevented from entering India. There are already enough other self-promoting money grabbers operating there under the auspices of their false 'gospel ' of greed and deception.
ReplyDeleteOne can only hope that their equally deluded and attention-seeking admirers, such as Betty Daniel, Mr. Betty Daniel, and Rick and Carrie Immel, are also banned. India doesn't need such people coming over and patronising its poor and needy, infecting them with 'refrigerator-healing' doctrines, and posting on Facebook self-promoting pictures and videos of themselves 'ministering' to them with falsehoods disguised as preaching and prayer.
There are in India, and have been for many years, genuinely Christian indigenous Indian pastors and others, who have been quietly loving their fellow-Indians locally, teaching only biblical truth, and sharing their beliefs when appropriate. They do not claim to be especially 'anointed by the Holy Spirit ' to protect themselves from accountability, and their teachings and practices from biblical evaluation. They do not embarrass, bribe, or bully people into giving them money. They do not parade themselves on TV, or engage in whistle-stop 'revival' or 'healing' tours. It is of such insignificant, faithful, unpublicised christians that Jesus was speaking when he declared 'I shall build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it'. They will always be in the minority, a 'remnant' as the Bible describes them. Conversely, the gate TO hell is opened wide by the likes of Hinn and Meyer, and their acolytes such as Betty and Chuck Daniel and the Immels.
The Devil is 'the father of lies', Betty. Only apostates like you who do not understand the true nature and invulnerability of Christ's church will resort to advocating deception under the cloak of Christ's gospel in order to by-pass a nation's immigration policies; and only someone of your intellectual limitations would be foolish enough to post such advice publicly on Facebook! Let us hope that the Indian authorities are tracking the names and Facebook utterances of you and your 'spiritual' associates.
Betty gave us some inadvertent good news. Hopefully she is next.
ReplyDeleteJoyce Meyers and Benny Hinn denied visas? Wonderful news. Now, if both Betty AND John cd. be kept out of India this wd. be yet another blessing for India. I remember hearing how some of the LEF were troubled when Richard Wurmbrand came to speak (IN Madras, I think)and retold how he lied to communist authorities to protect Christians. Whether you find this controversial or not, the Daniels lie all the time to protect and enrich themselves. Oh the irony.
ReplyDelete
DeleteLiz Van Camp to XXXX XXXX
16 hrs ·
XXXX please tell your friend Terry Huffman that he has befriended XXXX XXXX the head of the Whistleblower. She is a militant Hindu, trying to stop all missionary work. She dragged a Hindu gang into the HQ to attack my 80 year old mom. Just for your knowledge her best writer in the Whistleblower is a porn addict who watches porn as he rapes his wife and showed his wife's private parts to his tiny girls. Maybe you have some way to influence this poor man. All this is fact.
Which is why the hatred spewing forth out of Whistleblower comments is nothing but demonic
The Indians deserve something much better than the Daniel family cd. ever offer. Comments anyone?
Thanks for sending this, Terry Huffman. I guess LIZ Van Camp aka Betty Daniel is sending you some "spiritual advice." The woman seems to be surely on something that causes her to hallucinate. There are no other writers of this blog except me. There are many who comment and whoever this man this crazy woman is talking about may have surely commented on this blog and this woman Liz Van Camp I am guessing surely knows which comment was his as it would have hit her below the belt. All her rants about this "Hindu gang" is her way of defending her evil mom whom she referred to as Jezebel or some such nonsense not too long ago. This fool has such a hard time to decide on what side of the truth she chooses to stand. She keeps ranting off that some Hindu gang attacked some "LEF pastors." This moron posted a huge account of how one of this great LEF pastor Gunalan who was the one who did all the talking when I went to that hell hole called LEF HQ was a "murderer" who killed his "illegitimate grand child on her FB. Let this fool stop her 80-yr old from running wild in ruining the lives of many innocent people so that no Hindu has to show up at their God forsaken hell house called LEF HQ. Her mom and dad are the people who fixed the marriage of this alleged rapist she is talking about and after having ruined the life of an innocent girl by getting her married off to the person she is describing here, this arrogant and deluded fool still has the audacity to turn around and blame the whole world. The only way my rational mind can process the craziness of this maverick is to think that this woman is completely off her rocker.
DeleteSadly the kind of false teaching absorbed and propagated by Betty Daniel and her associates is often very attractive to unstable people. Betty's life to date, and her various pronouncements (whether on TV or on Facebook or anywhere else), clearly demonstrate that she is an unstable woman, which is not surprising, given her parentage and family background. However it is quite worrying that her FB posts are becoming more extreme, and especially that she appears to be increasingly and publicly preoccupied with deviant sexual matters, 'militant Hindus' apparently chasing her, and imaginary 'demons'. I find her obsession with pornography and rape very disturbing, and what she has posted on Facebook about 'tiny girls' is unbelievably crude, as well as very destructive to those quite easily identified children, and that family. A very unsavoury and damaged woman. Somebody should complain to Facebook about the post Terry has quoted; it violates the welfare and reputations of the children she so callously targets. Betty Daniel's public vitriol needs to be curbed, even if it does emanate from a disturbed mind.
DeleteBetty you are raving mad, soon you will be locked up. and then beg for bread.
Delete(An aside from the Betty Daniel saga). Looks like John Branch is still checking into Whistleblower! No, John, we haven't forgotten your extra-marital escapades yet - just in case you are thinking of setting up again as some kind of 'pastor' when the publicity eventually dies down.......though a public confession and apology to all the LEF people you hypocritically 'ministered to' and misled might minimally improve your chances. Or you might consider work as a scaffolder on a building site. . They do a lot of loud shouting. Moral rectitude not an essential qualification either (judging by the scaffolders I have been privileged to overhear - however apologies to those of the scaffolding fraternity who have nothing in common with Mr. Branch).
ReplyDeleteI listened recently to JB on You Tube. This is what Joshua Daniel thought of Indians. He despised them.
ReplyDeleteTerry, not sure if you have seen the comments which I have left published for a while from some random guy called Anil who tries to spam the blog. With all his incoherent and irrelevant comments, he also sends some random verses from the Bible. Poor fellow seems to have completely lost it!!! He keeps wanting to believe that he sees me in some Egmore station in Chennai ...ha ha. I purged the blog of this moron's mad ravings and in the process may have removed all the linked comments. Just clarifying that I did not have to moderate any comments from you except that I had to delete some of the comments remove the trails of the mad ramblings. Things seem to be coming to some logical end though. The Indian government in its multi-pronged attack on corruption is turning the country on its head. Many corrupt are coming to books and I am hearing some murmurs that LEF is caught in the net laid by the government. So, let us hope the New year gives people caught in this mess some fresh air to breathe to get a fresh and new perspective...
DeleteGood work WB!
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